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o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + Paradoxical isn't it ! On the one hand, there were zillions of local measurement units; on the other hand, by 1669 the French had the most accurate absolute measurement in the world for long distances, thanks to Jean Picard (and by the early 18th century the Cassinis had made France was best-mapped nation in the world). So the question is- did De Fer, working at about the same time as the Cassinis, under French royal patronage, and having access to the Picard data, make use of it to define his League by reference to the Earth's circumference? Perhaps measurement on the map itself, between points which are likely to have been positioned with maximum accuracy, can help provide an answer.

David Bradbury


Joel Kovarsky wrote:
I cannot help but wonder if the Britannica statement packages this too neatly: http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/HistTopics/Measurement.html .

    "In France, on the other hand, there was no standardisation and as
    late as 1788 Arthur Young wrote in "/Travels during the years
    /1787, 1788, 1789" published in 1793:-

        /In France the infinite perplexity of the measures exceeds all
        comprehension. They differ not only in every province, but in
        every district and almost every town./

    In fact it has been estimated that France had about 800 different
    names for measures at this time, and taking into account their
    different values in different towns, around 250,000 differently
    sized units. To a certain extent this reflected the powers which
    resided in the hands of local nobles who had resisted all attempts
    by the French King over centuries to standardise measures. Diderot
    and d'Alembert
    <http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Mathematicians/D%27Alembert.html>
    in their /Encyclopédie/ greatly regretted the diversity, but saw
    no possible acceptable solution to the problem. Some French
    scientists had proposed uniform systems at least 100 years before
    the French Revolution. Gabriel Mouton
    <http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Mathematicians/Mouton.html>,
    in 1670, had suggested that the world should adopt a uniform scale
    of measurement based on the mille, which he defined as the length
    of one minute of the Earth's arc. He proposed that decimal
    subdivisions should be used to determine the lengths of shorter
    units of length. Lalande
    <http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Mathematicians/Lalande.html>,
    in April 1789, proposed that the measures used in Paris should
    become national ones, an attempt at standardisation but not
    rationalisation. This proposal was put to the National Assembly in
    February 1790 but in March a different suggestion was made.
    Talleyrand put to the National Assembly a proposal due to
    Condorcet
    <http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Mathematicians/Condorcet.html>,
    namely that a new measurement system be adopted based on a length
    from nature. The system should have decimal subdivisions, all
    measures of area, volume, weight etc should be linked to the
    fundamental unit of length. The basic length should be that of a
    pendulum which beat at the rate of one second. The proposal was
    adopted."


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