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Histers,

I wonder if Peter has bothered to read the scholarship on Galileo by those he 
claims are not 'international' enough to participate in our conference. 

Eileen Reeves, Professor at Princeton, has published two recent books that have 
received extremely good reviews in the history and philosophy of science 
literature, Galileo's Glassworks and Painting the Heavens; 
David Miller, Professor of the History of Philosophy at Duke and the editor of 
the extremely important journal, The Journal of Philosophy, has published a 
series of groundbreaking articles on Galileo's epistemology (in its modern and 
historical forms) and his use of approximation (Archimedean); 
John Hessler, Library of Congress (myself) is the author of the forthcoming 
book, A Renaissance Globemaker's Toolbox where he has a large (120 page chapter 
that I know Peter has not read) devoted to Galileo's use of his classical and 
medieval predecessors and his logical models; 
Peter Machamer, Professor of the Philosophy of Science has written extensively 
on the philosophy of space, time and motion and is the editor of the Cambridge 
Companion to Galileo; 
Owen Gingerich, Emeritus Professor of the History of Science at Harvard is so 
well known in the field as to not need comment; 
and finally, Paul Needham is one of the most important historians of the 
Renaissance book working today...he is the author a forthcoming book on Galileo 
as printer and bookmaker.

Simply because we did not pick your favorites Peter is no reason to denigrate 
the scholarship of the participants or the motives of the organizers. We 
purposely picked new scholarship and a cross-disciplinary group so as not to 
duplicate the European conferences....

As far as critiques go...all of the LOC conferences are free and they are 
webcast a few months after they occur...we welcome and encourage the attendance 
of anyone interested in the subject, whether they be expert, novice or the 
interested general public...this is why most of our conferences draw an 
audience of around 400. Anyone is welcome to comment, question or critique 
anything presented...but one should at give us the benefit of allowing the 
presentations to occur first....

Scholarship from new scholars is important (maybe Peter does not think this but 
we do)...it is how we encourage new ideas and new approaches...it is how our 
humanistic disciplines advance, it is how they change and it is how they renew 
themselves and to us it is what makes them exciting...

....even though it must real thrill for someone like Peter to comment on that 
which he knows nothing about...it is hardly constructive or in the best 
interests of modern scholarship.

John Hessler
Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society

Senior Cartographic Librarian
Geography and Map Division
Library of Congress
202-707-7223

Website: www.warpinghistory.blogspot.com

The map does not reproduce an unconscious closed in upon itself; it constructs 
the unconscious.

                                                                     --Deleuze 
& Guattari, A Thousand Plateaus    

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Subject: Re: [MapHist] LC Forum on Galileo's Starry Messenger

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It is surprising that the LOC is organizing a seminar on a topic that last year 
was already discussed at various conferences in Europe, perhaps most divisive 
at the symposium "1609-2009. 400 Years since "Side Nuncius" by Galile" at the 
Pontifical Lateran University in Rome.

More remarkable is it that the organizers suggest that the whole issue can be 
addressed by representatives of American Universities alone (where 
representatives of Rice University and their interesting Galileo-Project
(http://galileo.rice.edu/) are curiously lacking!).
In that respect it is really amazing that the LOC spends a fortune for buying a 
rare book, but desists for organizing an accompanying symposium of 
international stature.

All respect for the views of historians like Gingerich and Machamer, but we 
wonder why renowned Galileo specialists as Albert van Delden (Utrecht) and 
Flavia Marcacci (Rome) - both published a critical translation of the Sidereus 
Nuncius recently), - are missing. The same applies for the German Art-Historian 
Horst Bredenkamp (University of Berlin), who unfolded an interesting vision on 
the Sidereus in his book "Galilei der Künstler".

Paul van den Brink
University of Utrecht
The Netherlands


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> The Starry Messenger
> A Library of Congress Rare Book Forum
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> Friday, November 5, 2010
> 9:30 am- 5:00 pm
> The Mumford Room
> Sixth floor, James Madison Building
> The Library of Congress
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>
> On November 5th, 2010, the Rare Book and Special Collections Division 
> at the Library of Congress will sponsor a day-long conference to 
> celebrate its recent acquisition of Galileo's Sidereus Nuncius, first 
> published 400 years ago.  The "Starry Messenger" contains the first 
> telescopic images of the moon, diagrams showing the location and 
> motion of the moons of Jupiter, and the first telescopic celestial maps of 
> the Milky Way.
> Revolutionary not only in its findings and observations, the book also 
> influenced later scientific and cartographic representations of 
> celestial objects.
>
> The conference will approach the book from a variety of disciplinary 
> standpoints and present new research on the book itself.  Galileo's 
> lasting influence on scientific representation and the beginnings of 
> modern astronomical representation will be addressed.  Speakers will 
> cover a variety of themes found in the work, including the printing 
> and construction of the book and early scientific celestial 
> representation (Needham); the use of the telescope (Reeves); Galileo's 
> logical methodologies and his debt to his classical and medieval 
> predecessors (Hessler); his representations and maps of the Milky Way 
> (Gingerich); and Galileo's lasting influence on scientific methodology 
> and empiricism (Miller and Machamer). The speakers are:
>
> Paul Needham (Scheide Librarian, Princeton University)
>
> Eileen Reeves (Professor of Renaissance Literature, Princeton 
> University)
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> David Miller (Visiting Professor in the Philosophy of Science, Duke
> University)
>
> Owen Gingerich (Professor Emeritus of Astronomy and History of 
> Science, Harvard University)
>
> John Hessler (Senior Cartographic Librarian, Geography and Map 
> Division, Library of Congress)
>
> Peter Machamer (Professor of the History and Philosophy of Science, 
> University of Pittsburgh)
>
> The conference is free and is open to the public.  More details will 
> be available in the coming weeks.
>
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