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Joel,
Thank you greatly for finding this. I did not stumble onto it myself because
BnF expanded “&” into “et”. Certainly it is the same map and probably from the
same plate, but from a different publication as can be discerned from the
diverging volume/page number inscriptions. In the copy I have, the the volume
and page number are inscribed inside the inner ruling of the neatline. In the
copy at BnF, that inscription lies between the outer rulings of the neatline
and the innermost.
As noted in my original inquiry, the volume/page inscription on my copy is Tom
XI, p. 121. This matches the second copy at BnF, given here:
http://catalogue.bnf.fr/servlet/biblio?idNoeud=1&ID=40701725&SN1=0&SN2=0&host=catalogue
(No image provided.) It seems likely then that my map comes form the same
publication as this second copy, which the library notes to be based on the
memoirs of Edmund Gibson. What publication that might be is not obvious to me.
Both BnF copies are dated by the catalogue to be after 1713, which says little
of use.
Altea Galleries, stating c. 1735, “The Hague: Durand & Dupard” and attributed
to Paul de Rapin-Thoyras, as mine was. However, it comes from a different
publication than mine, as is apparent from the placement of the volume/page
number.
http://alteagallery.com/stock_detail.php?ref=9029&search=subjectupard,
Fair Winds Maps, giving no firm date (1770s) or publisher (Anon):
http://www.fairmaps.com/NorthAmerica.php
From Barry Ruderman, a derivative on a different plate but same details,
attributed to I.A. Schanaebel/George Bickham (1750s):
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/10607?view=print
Please, does anyone curate a collection that houses this map in situ?
Best regards,
— daan Strebe
On Sep 29, 2011, at 4:54 AM, Joel Kovarsky wrote:
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> I was able to get a better look at the upper right margin of the Gallica
> image, which indicates Tome XII, pag. 1. Maybe someone at the BNF can double
> check the date of their entry, and how the date was determined.
>
> Joel Kovarsky
>
> On 9/29/2011 7:46 AM, Joel Kovarsky wrote:
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> To confuse matters further, WorldCat (via FirstSearch) has two entries for
> the map, dated 1800 (likely an error?--seems to have page markings as Tome
> II, pag. 1, but no linked image), and a second located at the BNF dated 1713
> (do your image measurements match?). That latter entry is also in Gallica,
> and copied below, and was a fairly recent online entry. They have a link to
> their image: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b5971470x.r=.langEN. That
> can be manipulated for higher resolution, although the download for me is a
> bit slow this morning, so I did not look carefully. The map could have
> appeared in both the Dutch and British (later) editions of Rapin's work. The
> map itself might have been copied from an earlier publication. Does your map
> have any indication of volume and page number in the margins?
>
> Full bibliographic record
>
> Title : Carte Générale des Royaumes, Etats et Domaines, que les Rois et la
> Couronne de la Grande-Bretagne ont possédez ou possédent en Europe en Afrique
> et en Amérique
>
> Publisher : [s.n.]
>
> Date of publication : 1713
>
> Subject : Monde -- Colonies anglaises Search in Gallica all documents with
> this subject
>
> Type : document cartographique,carte,image fixe
>
> Language : French
>
> Format : 1 carte : avec limites en rose ; 41 x 54 cm
>
> Format : image/jpeg
>
> Copyright : domaine public
>
> Identifier : ark:/12148/btv1b5971470x
>
> Source : Bibliothèque nationale de France, département Cartes et plans, GE BB
> 565 (1, 46)
>
> Relation : Appartient à : Atlas geographique, Contenant les Hémisphéres
> célestes et terrestres ; les Cartes marines du grand Océan ; la Carte
> générale d'Europe, divisée en ses Etats ; celles des Côtes de la Mer
> méditerranée, et des Iles Britanniques. Tome I.
>
> Relation : http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb42214776f
>
> Coverage : Monde (parties)
>
> Provenance : bnf.fr
>
>
> Date de mise en ligne : 24/01/2011
> Joel Kovarsky
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