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On 9/29/2011 9:56 PM, Daniel Strebe wrote:

Please, does anyone curate a collection that houses this map in situ?

I am sure they do, and you could scan www.worldcat.org for holding libraries and see if someone would track it, but it could take some work.

Ed Dahl had queried about the ampersand issue, so I've copied my private response to him below (Ed's initial comments are at the bottom):

   Ed,

   Any and all of this is possible. I only searched a title fragment
   when I did this, to avoid some of the issues. I've run into trouble
   with the elongated "s" in similar ways. And that is why I included
   the BNF record. I wonder if their date should have been 1731 (not
   1713), but they may not respond. There are different variants of
   that map, that is clearly true. An Old World Auction record had a
   variant with a different Tome and page number, inside the neatline
   (the BNF example was outside), and there were a number of editions
   of that work. Either way, I think daan's assertion that it could not
   be from an early Rapkin is hard to substantiate.

   Also, some catalogers routinely transcribe that ampersand, others
   don't, and use "and," rather than using an alternate title entry for
   both (which better catalogers will do), so people can find them. You
   know this, and it is part of the problem.  It could get worse with
   all this RDA (Resource Description and Access) stuff that is
   allegedly going to replace AACR2. They tell people to "take what you
   see," which may seem simple enough, but may cause even more
   confusion, especially when trying to copy catalog from a larger
   database.

   On another subject, my book manuscript is done and with UVa Press.
   It was supposed to have already been reviewed by two outside folk,
   but there were several mix-ups, and the chief editor was out for two
   weeks, and they lost and replaced a couple of board members. Bottom
   line is that it is out to one reviewer now, I've suggested some
   other names, and I'm hoping I'll know one way or another within the
   next 2 months or thereabouts. I had gotten a professional editor not
   only to go over the text, but to make sure the "aim" of the book
   (i.e. at an educated but not academically specialized audience).

   Thanks for the remarks, and let me know if I've misunderstood you.

       Best,     Joel

   On 9/29/2011 10:50 AM, Ed Dahl wrote:
    > Joel -- I notice that the 3 ampersands -- "&" -- in the title of
   this map are rendered as the word "et" when they transcribe the title.
    >
    > Is it correct to do that?
    >
    > I see that they have also added accents to words such as
   "generale" when they lower-cased the unaccented letters.
    >
    > That would screw up some cartobibliographical work. One goes to
   such great lengths to copy out things as exactly as possible, then
   one suspects one is researching a variant when one sees such
   differences.
    >
    > The computer would read then as different titles, wouldn't it?
    >
    > Ed


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Joel Kovarsky
The Prime Meridian
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