I don't want to walk into too much of a hornets nest here but I'm dubious
about the comment...

"Oracle 8i Spatial is a GIS independendent way of storing Spatial Data and
making it accessible from a various kind of systems (MapInfo, Intergraph,
ESRI,...even SQL native) ."

This implies an Oracle 8/9i spatial repository can be shared across a
variety of software - which would be wonderful.

This isn't true in our experience of ESRI - because their SDE software is
middleware which will use a range of RDBMS to store spatial types, if you
are hoping to use other software to maintain the same data its unlikely to
work. VIEW access might be OK  - "don't know" in case any lawyers are
reading - but SDE only maintains its own indices. The Oracle Spatial indices
to support MapInfo or anyone else are different. 

Also a very big "don't know at all" about Intergraph for the same reason.

Theres nothing wrong in this - all the manufacturers have their own
proprietary format and the ESRI products will all talk to SDE on 8/9i - but
you should be cautious in thinking a spatial 'repository' maintained through
SDE will work optimally or at all with any other manufacturers products just
because it happens to be using Oracle Spatial.

And presumably vice-versa. Its the difference between 'in the database' and
'using the database'.

BTW I'd LOVE to be contradicted on this.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Lindner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 January 2002 13:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MapInfo-L
Subject: Re: MI-L Oracle 9i Spatial: who else?


I think you cannot measure the two different
philosophies and compare the results.

Spatialware is an Extender on SQLServer only
for the use with Mapinfo products, Oracle 8i Spatial
is a GIS independendent way of storing Spatial Data and
making it accessible from a various kind of systems (MapInfo,
Intergraph, ESRI,...even SQL native) .

And by the way there is a lot of tuning possibilities inside
Oracle 8i, read the docs, ask your Oracle Admin, and have a
deep look at your data, i am sure that there is a great potential
tuning it, but there is no cook-book for that, it depends on the
data, the way you look at it, and and and....

Regards,

Markus

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Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 2:28 PM
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>
> Hi
>       We r also seriously working on Oracle Spatial with MapInfo product
> range, and would like to add some comments to the ongoing discussion.
> I'm having two databases SQL server 7.0 (with Spatialware4.5 trial
version)
> and Oracle8i spatial
>
> Both my databases are populated with a set of 23 layers, populated through
> EasyLoader.
> Now when I load a Workspace with "Live Access" in MI 6.5, the
> SQL-Spatialware loads the workspace in less than 50 sec  and it takes
about
> 170 sec for the Oracle spatial database to load the same workspace..
>
> Any comments on this observation..??
> Is it something to do about Spatialware being native to MapInfo and the
way
> Oracle stores spatial data..??
>
> Regards
> Kaul, Deepak
> Software Engineer
> RMSI, NOIDA
> INDIA
>
>
>
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