On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Steve Atkins >> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:52 PM >> To: Message Abuse Report Format working group >> Subject: Re: [marf] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-marf-as-05 >> >>>> Non-actionable reports could still be useful for collecting >>>> statistics, whose evaluation may eventually result in a better >>>> sending. This is especially true for spf- or dkim-reporting. >>> >>> I think this fits under "take action on it". >> >> I don't think so. If the report is not about an abusive behaviour on >> which the recipient of the report can take action, it's not something >> that should be sent unsolicited. >> >> If the recipient wants that sort of thing, they can ask for it. (And if >> they've not asked for it then the non-actionable reports you're sending >> are just ARF-formatted spam). > > I think we're agreeing, really. What I'm trying to avoid is having the AS > turn into a cookbook of 101 Things You Could Do With ARF Reports Maybe. I > think we should present the most common use cases based on experience, and > leave it at that, without going into navel-gazing about all sorts of neat > ways they might be useful someday.
+1 for the ARF format in general, sure. For unsolicited reports there's something stronger - If the report is about something that's not actionable by an abuse desk, it shouldn't be sent unsolicited. "evaluation may eventually result in a better sending." is a deliverability issue, not an abuse issue. Interesting to some people, sure, but something delivery@ should opt-in to not something abuse@everywhere should have to opt-out of. Cheers, Steve _______________________________________________ marf mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/marf
