Thanks, Shane.

I'll update the wording in all future press releases to reflect this detail.

I appreciate your following up on this!

-Sally



----- Original Message -----
> From: Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org>
> To: 
> Cc: "marketing@cloudstack.apache.org" <marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>; 
> "cloudstack-market...@incubator.apache.org" 
> <cloudstack-market...@incubator.apache.org>; "pr...@apache.org" 
> <pr...@apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2013, 16:37
> Subject: Re: REVISED (was Re: Talking Points for Graduation)
> 
>T he full use of "...registered trademarks or trademarks..." is 
> important 
> here because CLOUDSTACK is a registered trademark - and it's also quite 
> an important name these days.  But don't hold up a release just because 
> of me if it's not already saying that, as long as we're clear on this 
> going forward.
> 
> Also, the "or" means it can be used for any of our trademark 
> attributions - while a little wordy, it does make it sound stronger from 
> the trademark perspective.
> 
> - Shane
> 
> P.S. Please address questions to trademarks@ instead of me personally.
> 
> On 3/21/2013 12:53 PM, Sally Khudairi wrote:
>>  Thanks, Noah.
>> 
>>  I think in this instance, it can't hurt, particularly as CloudStack 
> came
>>  in as an already-established project (again, others have had similar
>>  experiences).
>> 
>>  I appreciate everyone's attention + fine-toothed comb review! I think
>>  we're in good shape. I'm ready to send this out under embargo, but 
> await
>>  your thoughts on Monday's distribution time.
>> 
>>  -Sally
>> 
>>     
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>      *From:* Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org>
>>      *To:* Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com>
>>      *Cc:* "marketing@cloudstack.apache.org"
>>      <marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi
>>      <sallykhuda...@yahoo.com>; David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>; 
> Joe
>>      Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net>;
>>      "cloudstack-market...@incubator.apache.org"
>>      <cloudstack-market...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi
>>      <s...@apache.org>; "pr...@apache.org" 
> <pr...@apache.org>;
>>     a...@shanecurcuru.org
>>      *Sent:* Thursday, 21 March 2013, 12:49
>>      *Subject:* Re: REVISED (was Re: Talking Points for Graduation)
>> 
>>      If were happy with it, we're happy with it. Not gonna turn it into 
> a
>>      bike shed. :)
>> 
>> 
>>      On 21 March 2013 16:46, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com
>>      <mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>          On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 04:37:25PM +0000, Sally Khudairi wrote:
>>           > Easy enough to augment for the press release. How about:
>>           >
>>           > > "Apache", "CloudStack", "Apache 
> CloudStack", and
>>          "ApacheCon" are registered trademarks or trademarks of 
> the
>>          Apache Software Foundation in the United States and/or other
>>          countries. All other brands and trademarks are the property of
>>          their respective owners.
>>           >
>>           >
>>           > Y'all OK with that?
>> 
>>          Yes
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>      --
>>      NS
>> 
>> 
>

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