Alex I am not sure what your contribution to this thread is ... what do you wanna say with your comments?
Cheers Andy On 13 June 2014 14:09, Alexander Shorin <[email protected]> wrote: > Also all variants with "data" and "yours" have direct reference to > Refuge.io one: "Data should be yours" > http://refuge.io/ > Not original idea now. > -- > ,,,^..^,,, > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Alexander Shorin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/user%40couchdb.apache.org/msg07748.html > >> CouchDB's slogan is "relax" > > > > Also screenshot from one of our website prototype from the same > > thread: > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jameshfisher/couchdb_web/master/screenshot.png > > "Time to relax" is the slogan. > > > > (btw, that was interesting thread) > > > > > http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-management/couchdb-emerging-top-choice-offline-web-apps-777 > >> The slogan of CouchDB is "relax," as in users can relax that their data > is safe, he said. "We pride ourselves on having a very reliable storage > engine," said Anderson. > > > > https://twoguysarguing.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/of-stats-and-scraping/ > >> CouchDB’s slogan is “Time to Relax” > > > > > http://depth-first.com/articles/2010/01/28/pubcouch-install-couchdb-on-ubuntu-karmic-from-source/ > >> Although I find CouchDB's slogan "Relax" comforting > > > > > http://techwirenews.com/2013/07/31/5-reasons-why-ive-fallen-in-love-with-couchdb-again/ > > > > > > And the best thing: > > > > Why "relax is a lie" and why "CouchDB isn't built for web": > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2033917/are-there-any-documented-projects-where-couchdb-was-tried-and-rejected > > (: > > > > -- > > ,,,^..^,,, > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Andy Wenk <[email protected]> wrote: > >> perfect! So I added the page here: > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Better+Slogan > >> > >> Waiting for Lena is also perfect for me :) > >> > >> Note: you have to be added as a contributor. Please register yourself > and > >> send us your username. We will add you then ... > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> P.S.: I will be offline for the next three days ... > >> > >> > >> On 13 June 2014 13:28, Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> +1 on starting to collect suggestions in the wiki and happy to wait for > >>> Lena to come back from vacation before doing any decisions. > >>> > >>> Best > >>> Jan > >>> -- > >>> > >>> On 13 Jun 2014, at 13:04 , Lena Reinhard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > I'm happy to help with this and would also join the process > suggested by > >>> Andy if this is what we choose to do (just to say I'd be in). > >>> > > >>> > It's good to have a defined timeframe here. From my side the main > >>> obstacle would be the suggested timeline - I'm on holidays until June > 23 > >>> and am aiming for at least a few days off (thus, I can't get started > before > >>> june 24), so an extended timeline would help me personally, otherwise > I'm > >>> also happy if someone else goes for it :) > >>> > > >>> >> On 13.06.2014, at 10:33, Andy Wenk <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> addition: > >>> >> > >>> >> and we vote for sure for the resulting list Jan and Lena will > propose > >>> out > >>> >> of the suggestions :) > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >>> On 13 June 2014 11:32, Andy Wenk <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Thanks Jan for bringing this up. This is a tough but good one :). > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I don't have any suggestions yet but agree with Lena's idea what > the > >>> >>> slogan should say. I would like to propose to create a list > somewhere > >>> >>> (temporary page on cwiki -> > >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Marketing ?), > >>> where > >>> >>> we can put in slogans and compare them. Then Jan and Lena review > them > >>> and > >>> >>> throw away what is not cool enough (we need some responsible people > >>> doing > >>> >>> this otherwise it will be endless). > >>> >>> > >>> >>> With this approach, we can fix that in between two weeks at max. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Cheers > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Andy > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> On 13 June 2014 11:12, Nick North <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> I agree with Lena that the slogan should have some connection with > >>> >>>> databases. "All your data, everywhere", for example, would do > that and > >>> >>>> refer to CouchDb's replication capabilities, but I don't think it > is > >>> quite > >>> >>>> enticing enough. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Nick > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>>> On 13 June 2014 09:55, Lena Reinhard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> I was part of that discussion with Noah and Dave this winter, > too, > >>> and > >>> >>>> to > >>> >>>>> me as a Marketing person, CouchDB's slogan has always been a hard > >>> one to > >>> >>>>> get, and so I was happy to discuss it that day and now again. I'd > >>> love > >>> >>>> to > >>> >>>>> see a slogan that goes away from what CouchDB *does* to what > value it > >>> >>>>> delivers to users (by what it is / does) and / or what value(s) > it > >>> >>>> offers > >>> >>>>> itself (where still the value it offers to people usually leads > to > >>> >>>> stronger > >>> >>>>> slogans which are easier to understand for people). > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Personally, I think although general slogans can be good and > sticky, > >>> I'd > >>> >>>>> try to stay away from something that is too general - at least an > >>> >>>> obvious > >>> >>>>> connection of the slogan to databases should be given to not > confuse > >>> >>>> people. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>>> On 12.06.2014, at 21:03, Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> On 12 Jun 2014, at 21:59 , Mike Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> I like it. I think that Apache CouchDB should lead us into the > >>> >>>>>>> post-Snowden, net neutrality era. > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> while I personally agree, I’m not sure that that’s a point we > should > >>> >>>> be > >>> >>>>> too upfront about. I’d like to avoid what happened to bittorrent, > >>> great > >>> >>>>> technology that is forever tainted with legal issues. But maybe > we > >>> >>>> should > >>> >>>>> force it and get some publicity from it :) > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> I once heard it described as, "what the internet was supposed > to > >>> be." > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> That was me, I’m glad that stuck :D > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> Best > >>> >>>>>> Jan > >>> >>>>>> -- > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> -M > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Sebastian Rothbucher < > >>> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Hi Jan, > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Great idea! > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Not sure if s/o else claims/owns it, but what about "the Web > in > >>> YOUR > >>> >>>>> hands" > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Good luck > >>> >>>>>>>> Sebastian > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> Am 12.06.2014 um 21:31 schrieb Jan Lehnardt <[email protected] > >: > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> Apache CouchDB™ is a database > >>> >>>>>>>>> that uses JSON for documents, > >>> >>>>>>>>> JavaScript for MapReduce indexes, > >>> >>>>>>>>> and regular HTTP for its API > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> What a bunch of baloney! I only say this because I helped to > >>> write > >>> >>>> and > >>> >>>>>>>> publish this. Noah and I developed this in the running up of > the > >>> >>>> 1.2.0 > >>> >>>>>>>> release that coincided with the new website that was meant to > be a > >>> >>>>>>>> watershed-the-draught-years-are-over release. I think it > fulfilled > >>> >>>> its > >>> >>>>>>>> purpose, but it won’t suffice today. > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> The CouchDB slogan, or byline, or motto is titling all our > public > >>> >>>>>>>> communication: It’s the first thing thousands of visitors on > our > >>> >>>>> website > >>> >>>>>>>> see. It is the first line in all our board reports and it is > the > >>> >>>>>>>> introduction in all our release announcements. It’s the one > >>> sentence > >>> >>>>> that > >>> >>>>>>>> gets quoted the most and as it stands it is a wasted > opportunity, > >>> as > >>> >>>>> it is > >>> >>>>>>>> not sticky, not memorable and not aligned with our goals. > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> We need a slogan that rolls of anyones tongue. We need a > slogan > >>> >>>> that > >>> >>>>>>>> captures succinctly what makes CouchDB unique. We need a > slogan > >>> that > >>> >>>>>>>> captures our values. > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> I realise that this is a MAJOR bike-shed and that’s why I am > >>> >>>> bringing > >>> >>>>>>>> this up here rather than dev@ for now. I’ve tried dev@ > before and > >>> >>>> it > >>> >>>>>>>> didn’t go anywhere. My strawperson proposal there was > “CouchDB,a > >>> >>>>> database > >>> >>>>>>>> that replicates” and while that is a lot sickier, doesn’t > really > >>> >>>> help > >>> >>>>>>>> either. > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> Over drinks with Noah and Dave in Berlin last winter we > >>> improvised > >>> >>>> a > >>> >>>>> few > >>> >>>>>>>> slogans that would capture the (what we think) value of > CouchDB, > >>> >>>> rather > >>> >>>>>>>> than the technicalities of it. The last thing we arrived at is > >>> >>>> “CouchDB > >>> >>>>>>>> puts the data in your hands.”. It isn’t perfect, but better > what > >>> we > >>> >>>>> have > >>> >>>>>>>> now and it opens us up to fill in all the background story > that we > >>> >>>>> need to > >>> >>>>>>>> make that claim: capture the ecosystem of Couch-Replication > >>> >>>> compatible > >>> >>>>>>>> projects and the distinct values of their interoperability. > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> What I’d like to see in this group to take this proposal and > >>> >>>> evolve it > >>> >>>>>>>> into something we are all comfortable with. We can then > prepare > >>> all > >>> >>>> our > >>> >>>>>>>> public facing properties to reflect the changes and see how > that > >>> >>>> goes. > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> I deliberately steer this away from a website redesign, or > major > >>> >>>>> rework > >>> >>>>>>>> on our messaging or even a lengthy philosophical debate on > “the > >>> why > >>> >>>> of > >>> >>>>>>>> CouchDB” in order to actually just figure out a better slogan > that > >>> >>>> we > >>> >>>>> can > >>> >>>>>>>> use to move forward. > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> What do you think? :) > >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>> Best > >>> >>>>>>>>> Jan > >>> >>>>>>>>> -- > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> -- > >>> >>>>>>> Mike Miller > >>> >>>>>>> Co-Founder, Chief Scientist > >>> >>>>>>> Cloudant, An IBM Company > >>> >>>>>>> 617-308-3110 mobile > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> Jan Lehnardt > >>> >>>>>> The Neighbourhoodie Software GmbH > >>> >>>>>> Adalbertstr. 7-8, 10999 Berlin > >>> >>>>>> neighbourhood.ie > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> Handelsregister HRB 157851 B Amtsgericht Charlottenburg > >>> >>>>>> Geschäftsführung: Jan Lehnardt, Lena Reinhard > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> -- > >>> >>> Andy Wenk > >>> >>> Hamburg - Germany > >>> >>> RockIt! > >>> >>> > >>> >>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de > >>> >>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de > >>> >>> > >>> >>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > >>> >>> > >>> >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> Andy Wenk > >>> >> Hamburg - Germany > >>> >> RockIt! > >>> >> > >>> >> http://www.couchdb-buch.de > >>> >> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de > >>> >> > >>> >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > >>> >> > >>> >> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > >>> > >>> Jan Lehnardt > >>> The Neighbourhoodie Software GmbH > >>> Adalbertstr. 7-8, 10999 Berlin > >>> neighbourhood.ie > >>> > >>> Handelsregister HRB 157851 B Amtsgericht Charlottenburg > >>> Geschäftsführung: Jan Lehnardt, Lena Reinhard > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Andy Wenk > >> Hamburg - Germany > >> RockIt! > >> > >> http://www.couchdb-buch.de > >> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de > >> > >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > >> > >> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > -- Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt! 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