Hi Johs, the marketing list is here to discuss marketing related things. The main project mailing list of all ASF projects is the dev@ list. Out of this reason and because of the broadest audience, all votes will be held on dev@.
Cheers Andy On 8 April 2015 at 05:13, Johs Ensby <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > Is this list for real or not? > It the dev list is to cast a vote too, keep it separate. > > The logo discussion/proposal/vote is a marketing list process that has > crashed due to the simple fact that it is a first attempt. > > A nice learning process for the list. > > I would suggest: > Go back to the announced process > Amend it with the missing parts > Restart on this list to conclude on the recommendation to the PMC > > Johs > > > > > > On 07 Apr 2015, at 21:08, Alexander Shorin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ok. The vote is cancelled. Sorry everyone! > > See all your votes on dev ML in round #3 thread! > > -- > > ,,,^..^,,, > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In addition, we should clarify the voting format. People will have to > vote on all proposals and send a +1/0/-1 (+ variations) for each one of > them. Not just pick the ones they like. > >> > >> Alexander’s vote in this thread is a good example. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Jan > >> -- > >> > >> > >>> On 07 Apr 2015, at 19:12, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> My experience is that split thread votes tend to be quite messy. > Discussion > >>> is missed, etc. > >>> > >>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 at 19:07 Andy Wenk <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> that would be the second cancellation ;-). Why not simply resend it > to dev@ > >>>> ? > >>>> > >>>> On 7 April 2015 at 18:56, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Are we going to cancel this vote and re-run it on dev@? > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 at 09:27 Nick North <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I've been away from CouchDB for a few months, so maybe my vote > should > >>>>> only > >>>>>> count at half weight. Echoing Jason's comment: it's great to see the > >>>>> effort > >>>>>> that has gone into this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> +1 Constantin Angheloiu > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 at 07:13 Jason Smith <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> +1 Constantin Angheleloiu > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks to everybody who submitted logos. I am so excited to see > this > >>>>> sort > >>>>>>> of community effort! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Johs Ensby <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi everyone, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> +1 Old logo > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The logo is the “memory chip” for the brand experience helping the > >>>>>>>> audience to quickly identify the brand and recall previous > >>>>> impressions. > >>>>>>>> Changing the logo resets our audience’s "memory chip" and you > start > >>>>>>> pretty > >>>>>>>> much all over again. > >>>>>>>> I think the logo itself is good enough to take CouchDB all the > way, > >>>>> it > >>>>>>>> could be strengthened by a not having to carry around a slogan or > >>>> its > >>>>>>>> mother brand Apache. These are separate parts of the identity > >>>> program > >>>>>> as > >>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>> have tried to illustrate here. > >>>>>>>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/johs/couchdb-old-logo.pdf < > >>>>>>>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/johs/couchdb-old-logo.pdf> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Constantin’s proposal is the only one that qualifies as a logo in > >>>>>> design > >>>>>>>> quality for me. This sofa is an icon, and as such it is functional > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>> supports the name and makes it easy to recognise and remember, > >>>> which > >>>>> is > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> most fundamental function of the logo. > >>>>>>>> My reason for still voting on for the old one is that a sofa in it > >>>>> self > >>>>>>>> does not carry the Relax or Rest message, which I would think is > >>>> the > >>>>>>> whole > >>>>>>>> point with “Couch” in the first place. > >>>>>>>> The old logo is a symbol of relaxation, remove the guy and you > >>>> have a > >>>>>>>> furniture. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I want to say thanks to the contributors with a reason for not > >>>> voting > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> their proposal: > >>>>>>>> Paul Davis: This is Couch (symbol) + Couch (word) without the key > >>>>>> message > >>>>>>>> and the sofa dull on its own. > >>>>>>>> Nick Pavlica: Overambitious symbolism > >>>>>>>> Brad Noble: Looses the link to the name, and too generic a symbol > >>>>>>>> Sean Barclay: The 3D logo makes even more of a furniture (rather > >>>>> than a > >>>>>>>> symbol) out of the logo. The proposal to rebrand and look at > >>>>>> alternative > >>>>>>>> names is the way to go if the existing logo was to be abandoned. > If > >>>>> we > >>>>>>> want > >>>>>>>> to start over again, we should dig deep for something really > >>>>> valuable, > >>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>> for that there needs to be a process to support a multistep > >>>> approach. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> johs > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 06 Apr 2015, at 19:09, Alexander Shorin <[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> as announced in [1] we are voting on a new CouchDB logo today. > >>>>>>>>> Multiple votes are possible. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Options to vote for: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Paul Davis: > >>>>>>>>> http://f.cl.ly/items/3U0A1s0r361Z1Y3v1p1b/big-couch-logo.png > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Nick Pavlica: > >>>>>>>>> Logo 1: > >>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x_MiNkTQrS8CHI7IkfzWoLbV_ > >>>>>>> Chdpku3fnwj041rYFI/edit?usp=sharing > >>>>>>>>> Logo 2: > >>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1tDFdIIJePNVC1UOVVxZ0FUWWM/ > >>>>>>> view?usp=sharing > >>>>>>>>> Logo 3: > >>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1tDFdIIJePNYlJUbFo4M2VBVXc/view > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Brad Noble: > >>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nqptqjrupj54no/2014-11-04% > >>>>>>> 2009.54.55.jpg?dl=0 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sean Barclay: > >>>>>>>>> https://app.box.com/s/cko5yt2hqbcbejgu2qtl > >>>>>>>>> (Logo 1, Logo 2, Logo 3) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Constantin Angheloiu: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwCSb3J9EzV3UEJ1SU41NWk2Q1E/ > >>>>>>> view?usp=sharing > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Old logo: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/ > >>>>>>> couchdb-logo.png > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb- > >>>>>> marketing/201503.mbox/% > >>>>>>> 3CCAJ1bcfHWwu%3DYhmkuP1pTwkaOHHr%3D%2B% > >>>> 3D2xgSbGPCAafuKHw0gDQQ%40mail. > >>>>>>> gmail.com%3E > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> ,,,^..^,,, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Andy Wenk > >>>> Hamburg - Germany > >>>> RockIt! > >>>> > >>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > >>>> > >>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > >>>> > >> > >> -- > >> Professional Support for Apache CouchDB: > >> http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/ > >> > > -- Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt! 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