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From: C. Olofson <c.olof...@gmail.com>
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 20 May, 2011 18:17:14
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated (EN) tri-fold brochure
On 05/20/2011 08:06 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> On 05/20/2011 10:22 AM, drew wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 15:08 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: drew<d...@baseanswers.com>
>>> To: marketing@libreoffice.org
>>> Sent: Tue, 17 May, 2011 16:15:04
>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Updated (EN) tri-fold brochure
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 20:59 -0400, drew wrote:
>>>
>>> Howdy
>>>
>>> Pushed a new update to the file on the wiki
>>>http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/1/14/LibO-TriFild-Pamphlet-11-05-15-ltr-en.pdf
>>>f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some text updates coming from the us_mktg list, primarily the removal of the
>>> secondary line for supported platforms.
>>>
>>>> (mentioning BSD on interior being one)
>>>>
>>>> Comments, suggestions welcomed as it is never really done, really, it's
>>>> just tonights copy.
>>>>
>>> Hi :)
>>> I still don't see the point of removing or avoiding mentioning that LO can
be
>>> run on other platforms, particularly when those platforms don't support MSO.
>>> There are 2 lines that say "The free power-packed, Open Source, personal
>>> productivity suite for:" and the next line misses out saying "BSD" although
>it
>>> looks as though there is plenty of room to mention it. There would be more
>>>room
>>> if "MS" was missed off the front of "MS Windows". Are there non-MS
>>> versions
>>of
>>> Windows? Do MS require that MS is always put in front of "Windows"? (in
>>which
>>> case a vast amount of writing about Windows is in breach.)
>>
>>> Have i missed a day or 2 worth of emails explaining that LO suddenly doesn't
>>> work on BSD? We tend not to hear from people where things have gone
smoothly
>>> and have only heard from a couple of people that have had minor issues with
>LO
>>> on BSD. I take that as a good sign. I am not on the devs list so perhaps
>>> people there have decided that LO doesn't work?
>>> Regards from
>> Hi Tom
>>
>> No one is saying it doesn't work on BSD - the discussion on the US mktg
>> list was more to do with "What platforms do you find when you visit the
>> main LibO site" and in that respect the answer is, these three (win,
>> linux, OS X). So the idea was to keep the marketing piece in alignment
>> with the website.
>>
>> Finally, there is a reason this is done on the open mailing list - so if
>> you have some specific wording?
>>
>> Thanks
> Does LibreOffice's web site tell people how to install it on BSD?
Nope. We don't: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/
> If we do list BSD on the pamphlet, we will need to be read for questions for
>installing it on BSD.
At this point, we're taking our lead from the LibO website. It mentions only
the three OSes.
> So if there is not references to BSD install, maybe we should say "Windows,
>Linux, MacOSX, and other platforms", with the "other platforms" in the small
>print.
In principle, I like that and that definitely sounds like the way to go. I
believe that the Debian project is as popular as it is, in no small part, for
the prominence they give to being a cross-platform product. But, I'd rather
defer that until later. Reason is, in my opinion, due diligence would require
us to get marketing, doc & support each to address this statement.
> So do we NEED to list all the platforms that LibreOffice can be used on, for
>just the 3 major ones?
I'm pretty sure we already settled on "the 3."
> Is there anything else that is blocking our "publication" of our project?
I'll defer to those who've been proofing more closely.
Craig
Hi :)
Ok, i think the pamphlet has been ready for quite a long time now. It's
getting
better but it already was good enough. Do we need it to be perfect first time?
I don't believe there is any such thing as perfection.
I don't think we need instructions for all the different OSes, especially if
the
Dvd is the Windows-only version. Windows users often need quite a lot of
hand-holding but often linux users are new to linux so they need help too as
they still have bad habits and mis-information left over from their Windows
days. By contrast Bsd users are likely to already have a lot of unix based
experience and be fairly used to advanced ways of installing, such as compiling
from source. We don't need to scare or confuse non-Bsd users by explaining
those, especially in a pamphlet for the Windows-only version. It's enough just
to mention the platform.
Or, going the other way isn't it dangerous to mention non-Windows platforms?
Is
it wise to mention other platforms at all?
Regards from
Devil's Advocate :)
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