I plan to have at least also groupedbar compact out of experimental. Work
is in finishing.

Am Sa., 24. Nov. 2018, 18:36 hat Nigel Verity <nigelver...@hotmail.com>
geschrieben:

> Drew/Mike
>
> That answers all the points I raised. Thanks very much.
>
> It would be both interesting and useful to capture some stats about how
> popular the notebookbar vs standard toolbar prove to be, but I'm not sure
> this can be automated without being intrusive
>
> Nige
> ________________________________
> From: Drew Jensen <drewjensen.in...@gmail.com>
> Sent: 24 November 2018 16:52
> To: nigelver...@hotmail.com
> Cc: mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org; Tdf Marketing
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Infographic 'Changing Face of
> LibreOffice'.
>
> Howdy Mike,
>
> I will reply in line.
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:56 AM Nigel Verity <nigelver...@hotmail.com
> <mailto:nigelver...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Mike
>
> With the notebookbar coming out of experimental I'm assuming it will be
> selected from the "User Interface" item on the "View" menu, as now when the
> user permits experimental features.
>
> Yes, but only one item is added to the view menu, 'Tabbed'. The other
> versions of a notebookbar visible when experimental features is selected
> are still experimental.
>
>
> This gives 9 options, of which 6 relate to an MS Office type of menu
> system. I can't help thinking this will confuse as many people as it
> impresses. Has a decision been made as to which option is the default for a
> user selecting the notebookbar rather than the classic menu? Perhaps a
> one-click method to toggle between the default notebookbar and classic menu
> should be considered.
>
> With 6.2 the default look after installation is the Standard Toolbar (as
> old and stayed as that look is).
>
> Switching to the Tabbed (notebook bar) is available, by module, from the
> top level View menu.
>
> When the Tabbed (notebook bar) is visible the top level menu is removed.
> The Tabbed bar now offers two drop down menus, one is available across all
> tabs, there is  also a tab specific menu.
>
> The ability to change back to the Standard Toolbar UI is always available
> from the All Tabs drop down menu, which of course restores the top level
> menu also.
>
> It should also me noted that secondary toolbars can still be used with the
> Tabbed (notebook bar), this is controlled both by context (some functions
> turn on secondary tool bars) or by the user from an item on the All Tabs
> drop down menu.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Drew
>
>
> Regards
>
> Nige
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Saunders <mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org<mailto:
> mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org>>
> Sent: 23 November 2018 08:46
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:
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> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Infographic 'Changing Face of
> LibreOffice'.
>
> Hello,
>
> On 23/11/2018 09:09, kainz.a wrote:
> >
> > I would recommend to focus on some toppics and don't mix everything in
> one
> > Poster.
>
> Yep, I agree! Drew, it's a great idea and thanks for working on it, but
> I think we need to focus on one thing at a time with the messaging.
> Otherwise people may get the idea that LibreOffice is too complicated,
> can't decide on a cohesive interface etc.
>
> The NotebookBar is going to be a big deal for LO 6.2, so we need to
> focus on one or two variants of it and say:
>
> * What it is (a new, OPTIONAL user interface design -- we're not
> changing everything! Otherwise we'll get a huge amount of angry comments
> on social media ;-) )
>
> * Why it's great (work with items in context, faster workflow etc.)
>
> * How to try it -- and super important, how to go back!
>
> IMO we need to simultaneously communicate that LibreOffice 6.2 has the
> same reliable, trusted, familiar user interface as previous releases,
> but is also modern, forward-looking and adaptable. This isn't easy, but
> if we do it right and not overload people with lots of information and
> screenshots, I think we can make it work...
>
> Mike
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