Does OpenOffice have funds to package their product? Packaging is usually the 
largest cost. Would it still be free or how much would it cost? I thought it 
was strictly download to keep down costs and kept the system on automatic drive.

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Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:25 PM, PETER ROMANO <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Why would PC Manufacturers offer an "OPT-OUT" when they are getting 
>> marketing $$$ to offer the "OPT-IN" ?
>> There are no funds for presenting OPT-OUT options on PCs that I am aware of.
>> That's where you local stores have to offer the advantages of 'UNINSTALLING 
>> UNNECESSARY SOFTWARE'
>> and replacing it with FREE APPLICATIONS offering the same or better 
>> productivity.
>>
>
>I think manufacturers widely have the ability to sell PC's without
>Microsoft Office, but they rarely offer alternatives.   So it is a
>binary, do you want Office, yes or no?  OpenOffice is never part of
>the discussion.
>
>But there are exceptions.  A few weeks ago we received a request from
>a small reseller in Slovenia asking about bundling OpenOffice.  So it
>does happen, but it is not mainstream.
>
>One possible audience would be the budget, off-brand manufacturer.  If
>they can offer a "fully loaded" PC using open source then they might
>have a price advantage.  But I don't know that business well enough to
>know if that idea adds up.  In practice it is possible that the supply
>chain management and volume of the Dell's of the world beat out any
>price advantage a smaller player might have by using open source.
>
>> This is a move that OpenOffice needs to explore, but I am not sure what can 
>> be offered in the way of incentives.
>>
>> I was employed in the past by Creative Labs, Inc. I worked for the Technical 
>> Training Department
>> as a Training Specialist and was also a Key Retail Account Representative.
>> Creative had employee discounts to present to store employees for all of the 
>> products Creative made.
>> This was a help to offer incentives, as well as giveaways during training 
>> days.
>>
>> Offering boxed copies of OpenOffice to employees at training events or store 
>> events
>> could be a way to get the word out to the most educated employees of the 
>> market.
>>
>> Getting into stores and educating sales and techs is the best way to offer 
>> alternatives
>> to customers based on conversations within the store environment.
>
>Certainly we hear of Microsoft offering training to Best Buy employees
>on how to sell the value of Windows.
>
>In any case, this does suggest some interesting questions that we
>might be able to research:
>
>==Where do users get their productivity software==
>
>1) Provided by their employer
>
>2) Comes pre-installed on their PC
>
>3) Mail order
>
>4) Purchased in retail store
>
>5) Purchased online/electronic download
>
>Once someone already has MS Office installed, there is little
>incentive for the user to explore alternatives.  So raising awareness
>before that purchase is key.
>
>> The only hold back would be the store culture.
>> It has to be 'permitted' as part of the culture.
>>
>> Pete...
>>
>> Peter J Romano
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:56:55 -0500
>>> Subject: Holiday OpenOffice promotion opportunity?
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> To: [email protected]
>>>
>>> For those portions of the world that celebrate Christmas, in the next
>>> three weeks we're coming into a major gift-giving season.  I recently
>>> bought a new PC as a gift for a family member.  Anyone buying a new PC
>>> faces several questions:  how much RAM, how big a hard drive, but
>>> also:  what version of Microsoft Office to bundle?  Home and School?
>>> Professional?  Small Business?  The PC vendors get a sweet deal from
>>> Microsoft to push Office.  Although you can opt out and save $200 or
>>> so, the PC vendors never seem to offer or even explain that there are
>>> free alternatives.
>>>
>>> This is a hard nut to crack.  As a free product, we're in many cases
>>> better for the consumer.  But we can't offer the same kind of kick
>>> back / revenue sharing with the PC vendor that a commercial product
>>> can do.  10% of zero is still zero.
>>>
>>> But maybe we can have a promotion directly to the consumer, raising
>>> their awareness of free alternatives?
>>>
>>>
>>> Brainstorming
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> "OpenOffice -- our gift to the world" (too pompous?)
>>>
>>> Image of Santa's elves writing open source software
>>>
>>> New lyrics to traditional song like "Jingle Bells" (Open source, open
>>> source, saving you big dough.  Oh what fun it is to save by using
>>> AOO!)
>>>
>>> "With the money I saved using Apache OpenOffice I bought a...."
>>>
>>> Could be a blog post, but a video would be even better.  Could be
>>> reused year after year.
>>

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