Valid and good point! We should see from the end user point of view. The
trouble to choose from AOO and LO may keep the user away from both

With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
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On 9 June 2013 12:29, Antoine Chevrier <[email protected]> wrote:

> > But if its causing volunteers pain then I would express that to the PMC/
> mailing list.  They don't know if you don't speak up.
>
> Hummmm ... and what about "commen end user pain" ?
> The split into Aoo and Liboo might have generated a big pain for lot of end
> users. Surely, it has generated a big pain for some users. Many, how could
> we know (a survey diffused on all user forums, opened during 6 months and
> not less,  would be certainty a great tool to measure this). This split
> added to the fact Aoo and Liboo will create great innovations, each by
> their side, will increase questions for end user. When the choice of
> OpenOffice for common end users was clear before the split into the 2 big
> Aoo / Liboo forks, it became a bit less clear nowdays. And for a decision
> maker of an organization, this generates also some questions which did not
> exist before the split: which of *X*oo fork should the decision maker have
> to do ? Which of *X*oo fork will be best for common end users of its
> organization considering they work with other common end users of other
> organization where information system decision makers will take decision
> also about *X*oo fork ...
>
> All of this seems to generate some troubles and might generate more
> troubles in the future. The way to stop this appearence of trouble, would
> be to decide actions to operate on this problem of common end-users
> perception.
>
> >But honestly I don't think there is a need for further discussion of this
> issue
> Honestly, from my point of view,  if I would be one of strategic decision
> maker of both project, I would place this on top position of decisions of
> both project ... seing this from the common end user view, and not from
> developper view. Just put this problem on few Games Theory Matrice
> Decision, and just tell us after, if there is no need to think of it ...
>
> All of this from my own point of view, which might be not so clever, not so
> relevant, not so aligned with the reality.
>
> If this adding comments "troll" you and the list, please tell it.
>
> Freely,
>
> Antoine
>
>
> 2013/6/7 Andrea Pescetti <[email protected]>
>
> > Samer Mansour wrote:
> >
> >  On Jun 7, 2013 10:35 AM, "Kadal Amutham" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Why both AOO and LO, which are open source, are required in this world?
> >>> Can
> >>> just one serve the purpose?
> >>>
> >>
> > Everybody used to be more or less happy with OpenOffice until late 2010.
> A
> > group decided to fork OpenOffice (which is perfectly allowed by the
> > license) back then and to start a separate product. I could maybe
> > understand that there is a justification for having two products, but
> I've
> > always believed that this does not imply having two communities.
> >
> >
> >  But if its causing volunteers pain then I would express that to the PMC/
> >> mailing list.  They don't know if you don't speak up.
> >>
> >
> > The PMC already knows. Some PMC members already collaborate (as
> > individuals) to both projects. What I would like to see happening, and
> > hasn't so far, is some form of official cooperation. For license reasons,
> > the OpenOffice code can freely be reused (and it does get reused), so
> > working on OpenOffice (code, QA, translations) automatically benefits all
> > derived programs.
> >
> > But honestly I don't think there is a need for further discussion of this
> > issue, besides what Louis wrote: the OpenOffice project should be better,
> > much better, in communicating that innovation happens at Apache (or, at
> > least, ALSO at Apache). The OpenOffice 4.0 release is an excellent
> > opportunity for this, so let's try not to miss it.
> >
> > Regards,
> >   Andrea.
> >
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