Hi, There is a policy in place for the whole of the Apache Software Foundation and that is the Apache License 2.0.
If we want to have a statement then we can clearly state that this allows reuse so long as trademarks, other included licenses and copyrights are respected. This is why we have a NOTICE and LICENSE in all of our releases. When we vote on a release we are saying that this is in order first. That the software works is secondary. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Kadal Amutham <[email protected]> wrote: > I think we should clearly frame a policy statement w.r.t code reuse by > others, and AOO taking code from other sources, put in the website for all > to know. > > With Warm Regards > > V.Kadal Amutham > 919444360480 > 914422396480 > > > On 6 June 2013 20:24, Louis Suárez-Potts <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On 2013-06-06, at 16:38 , Kadal Amutham <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This reminds me of a movie of Jackie Chan. I think the name of the movie >> is >>> "Police Story". The movie comes to an end. Afterwards there was a short >>> film. A small boy was very hungry. His father steals a loaf of bread >> from a >>> bakery to feed his son. The police arrives at that time and kills the >>> father. Then Jackie Chan comes and consoles the boy, "This world is very >>> bad. But we should live in righteous way" >> >> Your point is somewhat complicated by the fact that Jackie Chan has done >> tremendous work to remove the triads from informing the HK movie and >> Cantopop scene. And he's also recently gotten into some trouble for his >> efforts. (Just Google "jackie chan triads".) It's been a long fight of his. >> But when he made Police Story A (I think it's the one you refer to, the >> homage to Buster Keaton; this was back in the 80s), the triads were >> profoundly dominant and determined not just what got made but who made it >> and for how much. Their control made (or makes) the studio regime in >> Hollywood (which ended mid-20th cent., more or less) pale by comparison. >> (Bollywood does not have anything like this, either, I believe.) As a >> result of the triads' control, actors like Chan (but one could also name >> many, many others) would make far more films each year than their Hollywood >> compeers and for far less--and under far, far worse circumstances. (The >> film, Painted Faces, ostensibly about Samo Hung's and Chan's early >> training, I recall, could also be read as about the film industry in HK. >> But it's been years since I studied this, so my data are doubtless rusty.) >> >> I don't think that we actually have an answer to the problematic that's >> been pointed out except the one I suggested: simply inform the world of >> what is actually going on. Right now, the world, which is to say that >> segment fed by the tech writers and who read self-serving blogs, believe >> that LO is the acme of originality and community and that AOO is the spawn >> of something else. >> >> License allows for many things; that's its point. But being honest about >> one's doings and acknowledging debt is also very important in the >> construction of community. >> >> louis >>> >>> With Warm Regards >>> >>> V.Kadal Amutham >>> 919444360480 >>> 914422396480 >>> >>> >>> On 6 June 2013 19:54, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-06-06, at 02:23 , Kadal Amutham <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Andrea for the response. In general how our community feels >> about >>>>>> this process? >>>>> >>>>> This is the nature of open source. Equally, as Andrea points out and as >>>> I think most would agree, what is crucial is acknowledging the debt--and >>>> then also to pay it back by contributing *back* to OpenOffice. >>>>> >>>>> So, the issue is not that Libre Office or any other derivative uses >>>> Apache OpenOffice code, the issue is rather whether they contribute >> back to >>>> the project to which they are indebted. >>>> >>>> And that is the great irony, or hypocrisy even. If you recall, LO >>>> touted the GPL as necessary to ensure that companies would share their >>>> code, and argued that adherence to a copyleft license was necessary to >>>> force corporations to behave. But now we see the main LO sponsors -- >>>> Redhat and Suse -- taking code, but refusing to share or cooperate. >>>> Their problem is they've formed a self-interested leadership group >>>> that benefits financially from the continued existence of LO. So >>>> anything that would end the fork would end their self-assigned >>>> privileges. >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>>> And the larger campaign is then to inform the tech press of the >>>> imbalance, if that is what it is. For right now, it seems that the tech >>>> press wrongly believes that Libre Office is in the vanguard and that >>>> OpenOffice is limping along, in arrears. >>>>> >>>>> louis >>>>>> >>>>>> With Warm Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> V.Kadal Amutham >>>>>> 919444360480 >>>>>> 914422396480 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6 June 2013 00:54, Andrea Pescetti <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 05/06/2013 Kadal Amutham wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In one of the threads, there was a discussion regarding source code >>>> of AOO >>>>>>>> being used by LibreOffice. Please correct me if I am wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is correct and well known (well, maybe not as widely known as it >>>>>>> should be). Code from all version of Apache OpenOffice has been >> reused. >>>>>>> Notable examples include Armin's SVG import and Andre's Sidebar work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If this happens this shall be considered as a credit by AOO >> community. >>>> We >>>>>>>> shall feel happy to share our code in full or in part. What we can >>>> expect >>>>>>>> in return is mention of contribution of code by AOO community. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is acknowledged most of the times, even though it is not done very >>>>>>> prominently and at times individual contributors are credited instead >>>> of >>>>>>> the Apache OpenOffice project (which would probably be clearer). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Andrea. >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscribe@** >> openoffice.apache.org< >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-help@openoffice.** >>>> apache.org<[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
