On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:20 PM, waistli...@aol.com wrote:
> The withering away of the state is predicated upon a couple of  
> things: the
> withering away of the need for massive organized armed bodies of men
> domestically and internationally; the destruction of the value  
> relations and  the
> resolution of class antagonism.

But Lenin wrote (in State and Revolution) that the withering away of  
the state begins at the very instance when the proletariat ("the armed  
working class") takes power.  The Commune-state is "a state of a new  
type."  The soviet state, alas, though not "strangled at birth" by the  
Wilsons and Churchills was subjected to grave injuries that led to its  
violent death at the hands of the Stalinist counterrevolution in the  
years 1935-1939.

Shane Mage

> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
> Herakleitos of Ephesos

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