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Louis, the problem is, you suck at changing the goal posts. While you may or may not be correct about "Sam Farber" (I agree with you here, but this is not the point), Shane's comment, the one you do not want to address and, because you have no response to him you dredge up his Spart past from, say, what is now...45 years ago when he left them...was that the Cuban Communist Party bans factions. State capitalism? Sam Farber? The ISO? Gerry Healy? No, he just noted a *fact* in relation to the whole issue of tendencies in the British SWP. Shane himself is a wee bit on the obtuse side as well (and it's this being obtuse why I enjoy his oh-so-abbreviated comments now and again). I *suspect* he meant all this goings on about democratic centralism, democracy, Leninism (or "Leninism") and no one is noticing the Cuban CP and whether this has any bearings on how this party, in power off the coast of Florida, functions in relation to the discussion at hand. DW ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com