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"He shortened it from the word "Zionist" which he also misuses. He doesn't own any of these words." Actually, he kind of does because Duke was its chief - and unchallenged - popularizer. Why did Greenstein take a word that was already notorious on the Left and use that same word, instead of coining a brand new word? I would just love to see you go into an African-American neighborhood and used the word "sambo" but announced that you were going to use it in a new way because, after all ,why should we let white racists own that word? I suspect something would happen to you there that would prevent you from posting for quite a long time. "How is this not tokenism again?" Oh, gee, I don't know, because it's not? She was just one example of a Palestinian I recently met. She's certainly not the only Palestinian who would agree with my "nutty" views about Israel's Declaration of Independence, a view that was shared by that other nutty racist, Albert Einstein. Sheldon Ranz On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Jeff via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > On 2018-03-29 19:28, A.R. G via Marxism wrote: > >> >> "If you know of forms of racism that are "tolerated" by the left, then why >> the hell aren't you fighting THAT racism? Can't you speak up when you see >> such injustice, AS THE REST OF US TRY TO? " >> >> That is literally all I have been doing. >> > > Gee, I must have missed it. So for those of us who are such poor readers, > I wish Amith would point to forms of racism that are "tolerated" by the > left and then we'd have something actual -- and indeed serious! -- to talk > about. Whether or not it's "literally" all Amith has been doing. > > And if Amith is going to talk about others' views, then he should be > required to supply direct quotations, as I did twice in regards to Amith's > dubious charge that the left tolerates racism. Instead he does exactly what > he falsely accuses me of (which I'm sure he well understands, being a > lawyer himself): > > so Jeff is >> apparently doing the kind of thing that nitpicky prosecutors do: purposely >> removing quotes from context >> > > When did I ever do that? Amith accused the left of tolerating racism, and > I can't find anything in his post which supplies a "context" that changes > the meaning of such a remark, but you can read his entire post for > yourself. Here's the "context": > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2018-March/281321.html > > Again, I'm not saying that Amith is wrong, just that IF he knows of the > left tolerating racism, then he should bring it to our attention. And > moreover, that the left tolerating one form of racism clearly isn't an > argument to justify anything at all. > > I'm disturbed at the way Amith puts words into other people's mouths. When > I read what he writes about me, I learn that I have been busy searching for > antisemites among the left. Huh? No one who knows me personally, or who has > read what I write on this list (as you all have access to), would have ever > concluded anything like that! I don't believe I have ever accused a leftist > of being antisemitic (including when I suspect it's true, since I'm very > careful about making my suspicions public). My concern has always been with > the left amplifying or adapting to positions of the RIGHT, and of course > that does include antisemitism. And I'm concerned with the left being > falsely branded as or seen as antisemitic, which is why Corbyn's (possible) > sloppiness became an issue that properly concerns us. > > - Jeff > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/opt > ions/marxism/sranz18%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
