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One thing that might help is for Jeff to cease creating new topics every time he wants to post something, as he has done in the past (and is doing here). This removes any conversational context and allows Jeff to play dumb when incising quotes as he has done here. The original threads about Corbyn and the other one I posted about Sheldon Ranz, not to mention my post history on this forum should answer any questions or concerns other comrades have about my condemnations of racism. Most of that has been in the context of Palestine solidarity, but also Trumpism, Islamophobia during the Charlie Hebdo incident, and other long-standing forms of racism that have infiltrated the left. Amith R. Gupta On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Jeff <meis...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > On 2018-03-29 19:28, A.R. G via Marxism wrote: > >> >> "If you know of forms of racism that are "tolerated" by the left, then why >> the hell aren't you fighting THAT racism? Can't you speak up when you see >> such injustice, AS THE REST OF US TRY TO? " >> >> That is literally all I have been doing. >> > > Gee, I must have missed it. So for those of us who are such poor readers, > I wish Amith would point to forms of racism that are "tolerated" by the > left and then we'd have something actual -- and indeed serious! -- to talk > about. Whether or not it's "literally" all Amith has been doing. > > And if Amith is going to talk about others' views, then he should be > required to supply direct quotations, as I did twice in regards to Amith's > dubious charge that the left tolerates racism. Instead he does exactly what > he falsely accuses me of (which I'm sure he well understands, being a > lawyer himself): > > so Jeff is >> apparently doing the kind of thing that nitpicky prosecutors do: purposely >> removing quotes from context >> > > When did I ever do that? Amith accused the left of tolerating racism, and > I can't find anything in his post which supplies a "context" that changes > the meaning of such a remark, but you can read his entire post for > yourself. Here's the "context": > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism/2018-March/281321.html > > Again, I'm not saying that Amith is wrong, just that IF he knows of the > left tolerating racism, then he should bring it to our attention. And > moreover, that the left tolerating one form of racism clearly isn't an > argument to justify anything at all. > > I'm disturbed at the way Amith puts words into other people's mouths. When > I read what he writes about me, I learn that I have been busy searching for > antisemites among the left. Huh? No one who knows me personally, or who has > read what I write on this list (as you all have access to), would have ever > concluded anything like that! I don't believe I have ever accused a leftist > of being antisemitic (including when I suspect it's true, since I'm very > careful about making my suspicions public). My concern has always been with > the left amplifying or adapting to positions of the RIGHT, and of course > that does include antisemitism. And I'm concerned with the left being > falsely branded as or seen as antisemitic, which is why Corbyn's (possible) > sloppiness became an issue that properly concerns us. > > - Jeff > > > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
