Well, the example you give is just about perfect-- 150-200 miles and 2 
hours.  Would you take the train if it were 500-600 miles and 5-6 hours?  Or 
would you fly?

If you have HSR for  NYC-Chicago, 732 miles and it's 6 hours, well you have 
accomplished a miracle, but how are you going to construct a separate high 
speed line through the area of the country's most intense rail operations? 
And first and foremost, HSR service must be segregated from all other 
service.  The problem of overtakes, of high speed trains catching up to and 
being delayed by  low speed trains, is the critical factor.

And in other 500 + corridors?  Is there enough traffic to warrant the time 
consumed in constructing and maintaining HSR to bring the travel time down 
below 4 hours [studies, surveys show that 4 hours is about the max people 
want to be on a train]?  Detroit to St. Louis?  Minneapolis to Chicago? 
Omaha to Denver?  I don't think there's the traffic that will be pulled off 
the airlines to justify the construction of HSR

I think the better direction is to develop commuter rail operations around 
major cities, higher speed rail between major cities [110 mph], and some HSR 
to see if we can actually make it work, and by work, I mean actually fill 
the seats.

Tell you where I would put HSR, but only before the revolution... LA to Las 
Vegas... hell, anywhere to Las Vegas, and have slots on the trains, and make 
the club car a real club car, with craps and blackjack.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Perelman" <[email protected]>
To: "David Schanoes" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:53 PM
Subject: [Marxism] railroads


> In China, I gave 2 different talks about 150 -200  miles away from where I
> was staying in Beijing and Shanghai.  The trips took less than 2 hours;
> very comfortable.  I don't know how much they cost.  My hosts took care of
> that, but they were far more comfortable than a plane.


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