On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 18:53 -0700, Michael Perelman wrote:
> In China, I gave 2 different talks about 150 -200  miles away from where I 
> was staying in Beijing and Shanghai.  The trips took less than 2 hours; 
> very comfortable.  I don't know how much they cost.  My hosts took care of 
> that, but they were far more comfortable than a plane.
> 
> David, when you say that trains are uncompetitive at more than 500 miles, 
> do you mean just timewise for the trip.  Security at the train station was 
> minimal -- just passing a bag onto a conveyor, which hardly slowed me down 
> at all.

I travelled by train a couple of times when I was in China earlier this
year; from Beijing to Changchun in a standard carriage and back at night
in a 4 berth sleeper carriage. The train was fast, modern and
comfortable but on the way there my travelling companion and I both
found the air conditioning too dry and warm. On the way back I was by
myself but it was cooler to allow people to sleep and was very
comfortable, and the same price. It was very cheap too although my
sieve-like memory means I can't remember how much. Both trips cost the
same.

Ironically, my friend, who's very much into the "modern" China, and is
not a lefty, missed the old trains. She'd looked forward to travelling
around by train during her trip home but didn't enjoy it (because of the
aircon) and wanted the older style carriages where you could open the
window . . .

When I was to meet up with her again in Xi'an, her home town, she got me
an air ticket delivered to my door, for less than the price of the
train!
Cheers,
John


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