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On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Shane Mage <shm...@pipeline.com> wrote: So "Christianity" (pace Aquinas) discards *logic*??? Or is it "god" > that is an illogical concept? > Neither, but logic does not demand dualism (and usually suffers from it). > Mine was a strictly logical argument in the terms posed by the > Christian philosopher. > No, yours was a dualistic argument. That's very different (and as faith-based as any other way of looking at the universe). If you think that when Gutting writes that "God is neither material nor composed of immaterial parts (whatever that might mean). Rather, he is said to be simple, a unity of attributes that we may have to think of as separate but that in God are united in a single reality of pure perfection," he means that God is the opposite of complex, you simply need to reread him. > So what is your Christian definition of the word "God?" Does it amount > to anything other than "that which cannot be defined?" > That's certainly a big part of it. I believe Carl, who, unlike me, actually knows his theology, would define God as "the reason there is something rather than nothing," or words to that effect. > "Science"="Big Bang"??? > Oh, right - you're some kind of a heretic here, no? -- "Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað." ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com