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How about this one from Bakunin's "God and the State": "If God actually existed, it would be necessary to abolish him" which amplifies God as an idol: of class society, an idea as I recall that Marx touched on. http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/bakunin/works/godstate/index.htm My copy of this work has as its epigram, Herzen's evaluation of Bakunin: "this man was not born under any ordinary star, but a comet" and then Aquinas obviously was an apologist for feudalist society run by land Lords; I mean when was it ever said "Jesus is Serf"? On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Joseph Catron <jncat...@gmail.com> wrote: > ====================================================================== > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > ====================================================================== > > > The Times ran an interesting online essay along these lines Wednesday, > which > has caused me to partially rethink my own approach to Dawkins and his ilk: > > "Religious believers often accuse argumentative atheists such as Dawkins of > being excessively rationalistic, demanding standards of logical and > evidential rigor that aren’t appropriate in matters of faith. My criticism > is just the opposite. Dawkins does not meet the standards of rationality > that a topic as important as religion requires." > > http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/on-dawkinss-atheism-a-response > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:52 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galli...@illinois.edu > >wrote: > > The trendy disproofs of God (e.g. from Ditchkins, as Terry Eagleton would > > have > > it) are in fact warnings - of which Thomas Aquinas would have approved - > > against > > idolatry in his technical sense, viz. treating God as a thing in the > > universe > > rather than creator. They so often hinge on fallacies arising from the > > inadequacy of language. (It's about things, and God is not a thing; God > and > > the > > universe do not add up to two [two what?]). So, (as a correspondent > > recently put > > it) an argument "God cannot exist" becomes "this kind of God-as-creature > is > > not > > worthy, has no worth-ship", i.e., "you shall not worship other Gods." > > > > ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
