> > What are you talking about? I have already defined opposition to > transgender rights as incompatible with Marxmail. I unsubbed Phil > Ferguson, who I considered a good cyber-friend and comrade for over 20 > years. I am not opposed to debating the Uighur question. I am only opposed > to Roger Kulp's refusal to engage with David Brophy's article. A debate > involves exchanges over what each side upholds. Until he begins responding > to Brophy's analysis, the debate has yet to begin.
I think you mean Brophny's May, 2018 article from Jacobin? I have read several by Brophny, including those at places like Made In China Journal. I'm not a debator. I don't have those skills. What I require ,though, is enough unbiased evidence to change my position. Let me say this, I am a hardcore Maoist and defender of China. This includes defending Mao for the Cultural Revolution. I have a hard time acccepting a lot of these charges leveled at China, and question some of the sources. I also admire a lot of what Xi has done, as far as modernizing China, and eradicating poverty. If he has done this at the expense of dominance of American capitalism, then more power to him. This colors the way I see China. I would like to see China open up Xinjiang to unbiased international inspectors,though. That said, I don't think the treatment of the Uhygurs, as bad as it may be, can at all compare with what the US has done to Islamic countries in the world. Countries Like Iran in 1952, and what was done in our name in Iraq, Libya, Sudan,etc. in the last thirty odd years. Invasions, sanctions, overthrowing governments and executions of leaders, bombings, destruction of infrastructure, and Islamic holy places, theft of natural resources, you name it. Not to mention US aid to the Saudi war on Yemen, and all the harm it has caused, or the slave markets that sprang up in Libya and Sudan, after the US actions. Capitalism in action baby. You want to talk genocide of Muslims? That's genocide of Muslims, but too few people are talking about that. Then we have the US- backed "color revolutions" in places like Egypt, and all the chaos left in their wake. So, no, I do not believe anybody in the US government, or anybody in a NGO tied to the US government, has any credibility, or moral right to get up on their sanctimonious high horse, and lecture China about mistreatment of Islamic people. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#7732): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/7732 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/81477310/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
