On 4/10/21 11:13 AM, Roger Kulp wrote:

    This is ridiculous. Grayzone, PSL, Global Research, Consortium
    News, RT.com, et al have constant reminders about the NED, the
    CIA, and every other nefarious American imperialist institution
    plotting to keep the natives restless in Xinjiang. If I had to
    deal with forced assimilation in the name of Communism, you'd bet
    that I'd be looking up the nearest anti-Communist. As for bad guys
    supporting the Uighurs, keep in mind that Saudi Arabia has given
    its blessing to Xi Jinping to keep the jihadi devils in line.


Louis, you are missing my point. I was specifically talking about the Uhygur admiration for the state of Israel mentioned in this article. Many on the wesrern left support both the Uhygurs, and the Palestinians, seeing both groups as victims of anti-Islam setller colonialism. Apparently there are many Uhygurs themselves, is it a majority (?) , of Uhygurs who do not share this point of view. Doesn't Israeli treatment of Palestinians also involve forced assimilation as well?

Why is some intellectual consistency all around too much to ask for ?


Here's David Brophy on these questions. If  you had read this, as you claimed you did, you'd understand that David speaks for most on the left on Uighur overtures to scumbags like Netanyahu or Marco Rubio. In fact, David wrote a book on the need to oppose Sinophobia, especially in Australia that is as bad as is in the USA. I wish you'd keep in mind  that your points have not only been addressed in the past, but repeatedly.


 The Vicious Circle of Xinjiang Advocacy
 
<https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/05/xinjiang-uyghur-china-repression-surveillance-islamophobia>

The repression in Xinjiang is too intense to expect resistance to emerge to the new policies any time soon. Nor should we anticipate inner-party opposition to them in Beijing. Abroad, though, many ask what can be done to help the Uyghurs. The Uyghur diaspora hasrallied <http://www.euronews.com/2018/04/27/thousands-of-ethnic-uighurs-rally-outside-european-commission-against-china>around the world recently. Journalists and scholars have madeadmirable efforts <https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2018/05/an-entire-culture-is-being-criminalized-details-emerge-about-xinjiang-reeducation-camp-system/>to bring to light the disturbing realities.

And last month in Washington, Senator Marco Rubio brought the Uyghur question back into play in US China policy, by making avery public intervention <https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/congressional-leaders-urge-us-to-press-china-over-reports-of-mass-uighur-detentions/2018/04/05/9bd17c90-38b3-11e8-b57c-9445cc4dfa5e_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.13311ff7feb1>surrounding the reeducation camps, pointing specifically to the detention of family members ofRadio Free Asia <https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/reporters-relatives-03012018164751.html>journalists.

Some, possibly many Uyghurs, will welcome Rubio’s intervention. With good reason, they see themselves as victims of Communism, caught as they have been between two repressive mega-states that described themselves as Communist. Much of the international left long endorsed the idea that the Soviet Union and China were examples of living socialism, and therefore to be defended at all costs. *Without any friends on the Left, Uyghurs in exile have naturally tended to gravitate towards the anticommunist right.*

The tragedy is that this has made it all too easy for Beijing to portray Uyghur discontent as the product of a hostile Western conspiracy. This is opportunistic and cynical, but unfortunately, it is persuasive to some Chinese. There is a vicious circle here, one that only leads us away from a just solution in Xinjiang. And as the Xinjiang question comes to international prominence once again, it risks falling back into this familiar rut.

Foreign governments naturally shouldn’t hesitate to criticize China’s mistreatment of its minorities. But Rubio, predictably, went beyond this, in explicitly linking the plight of the Uyghurs to US objectives in Asia.Writing to the US ambassador <https://www.cecc.gov/media-center/press-releases/chairs-urge-ambassador-branstad-to-prioritize-mass-detention-of-uyghurs>in Beijing, he asked him to look into the issue because the “crackdown in the XUAR touches on a range of interests critical to US efforts to secure a free and open Indo-Pacific region.”

Rubio is nowspearheading an effort <http://freebeacon.com/national-security/house-probe-china-threat/>to ramp-up pressure on China across the board, a push that follows on the heels of Washington’s most hawkishforeign-policy statements <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/12/18/trumps-national-security-strategy-marks-a-hawkish-turn-on-china/?utm_term=.ee214042082e>on China since it officially recognized the People’s Republic in 1979.

In the wider debate surrounding China’s rise, sometraditionally progressive voices <http://clivehamilton.com/chinese-communist-party-influence-why-the-critics-are-wrong/>now believe we have no choice but to set aside our “knee-jerk anti-Americanism” and embrace US global dominance. So objectionable is China’s authoritarian system, they argue, that as its weight increases in world affairs, we must unite to resist it.

But Western saber-rattling will not help anyone in Xinjiang. Linking the injustices there directly to Washington’s bid to shore up a declining hegemony in Asia will only strengthen the party’s resolve to clamp down, meaning that Xinjiang’s reeducation camps could very quickly turn into internment camps for the entire Uyghur population. It’s unthinkable what an actual war might bring.

Meanwhile, some on the Left might be tempted to take the opposite approach: to go quiet on China’s domestic policies and focus instead on combatting our own militaristic tendencies. But to drop any criticism of China would be to shirk a moral responsibility to speak out against oppression and a political responsibility to find solutions to it. Progressive acquiesce to the right-wing monopoly on the discourse around Xinjiang is one of the reasons we got into this vicious circle in the first place; we need to look for a way out of it.







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