Re: [marxmail] ultraleft campism, Chomsky style

[Travis Reid via groups.io]

I have a Serbian friend who to this day blames Bill Clinton for the NATO attacks in Serbia without acknowledging the atrocities committed by his own people.  He falsely assumes that because Al Gore was of Albanian heritage that he had outsized influence on NATO’s decision to perform targeted bombings in Serbia without knowing how things work in the U.S. and NATO.  In many respects, the Serbs saw themselves as the rightful heirs of the territories of the former Yugoslavia, and they presumed that gave them the power to treat other people as they wished.  They sorely miscalculated how the rest of the world would see them and what consequences they would pay.  Today they, unlike other countries around them, do not wholly support the EU or NATO and continue to be allied with Putin more than they were ever allied with the Soviet Union.  It’s their loss as much as it is a loss for NATO and the EU.  At the end of the day, their alliance with Russia will never bring them prosperity while countries like Romania and Hungary will thrive as part of the EU.  Ethnocentrism has highly negative long-term consequences for all involved unless people are willing to admit their mistakes, so it follows that Russia will be penalized by most of the West for decades to come for its own ethnocentric pretensions, and everyone including the Russians will lose out. On Jun 26, 2024, at 09:16, Michael Pugliese <michael.098762...@gmail.com> wrote:  Noam Chomsky's Denials of Serbian War Crimes and other misleading and false statements he has made on the Bosnia and Kosovo conflicts http://balkanwitness.glypx.com/chomsky.htm Among the hyperlinked pieces.  See No Evil How did genocide denial become a doctrine of the internationalist left? By George Monbiot, May 21, 2012 Supporting material: Correspondence with Noam Chomsky, in which Chomsky shows himself to be incapable of responding to criticism that he endorsed Edward Herman and David Peterson's denial of the Bosnia and Rwanda genocides. By George Monbiot, June 2011 The Left Revisionists An extensive review of a broad array of those on the Left who downplay the violence and suffering involved in the wars in the former Yugoslavia and shift the blame to the Western alliance. Among those discussed are Noam Chomsky, Edward Herman, Michael Parenti, Michel Chossudovsky, Diana Johnstone, Mick Hume, John Pilger, Harold Pinter, and Jared Israel. By Marko Hoare, November 2003         _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#30918) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [arch...@mail-archive.com] _._,_._,_