Hi Marv

> On Nov 4, 2024, at 11:00 AM, Marv Gandall via groups.io 
> <marvgand2=gmail....@groups.io> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2024 at 10:47 AM, Mark Baugher wrote:
> Which of these sentiments have you heard on the list? At first glance, pretty 
> much everything from #4 on,

Recall we are talking about 
https://monthlyreview.org/2024/11/01/the-new-denial-of-imperialism-on-the-left/#en70
 and its list of points quoted in https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/33302. 
Marv argues that the statement "humanitarian imperialism designed to protect 
human rights is justified" is a sentiment widely supported among the few dozen 
people who frequently post to marxmail.  "Humanitarian Imperialism" 
(https://www.amazon.com/Humanitarian-Imperialism-Using-Human-Rights/dp/1583671471)
 is a term that applies to politicians like Samantha Power 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Power) but is an epithet when applied 
to us.  I don't know why I have to defend that point from Marv, a frequent user 
of the marxmail.  How about "imperialism is simply a political policy of 
aggression of one state against another."  Who among us believes that?

> though I'm not about to do a search of the archive to produce a footnoted 
> report.

Those two statements above aren't about "Euro-centric Marxism" but non-Marxism.

> To be clear, I don't agree with certain forumulations in the essay but I do 
> strongly agree with its overall thesis. 

Which is what?

Mark



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