> On Jan 6, 2026, at 15:53, Charles via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> over 60% of those under 30 liking socialism." True but incomplete. 34 percent 
> of them have a favorable view of communism.

What people mean by those terms differs widely. Some use "communist" in the 
Third International sense and some use it to refer directly to Marx's work or 
other reasons. I don't know what Jack Barnes calls himself a "communist" but I 
can tell you it means nothing in Barnes' case. Some people find it sounds more 
radical than "socialist." Either way, we are playing with labels that are not 
self-defining. 

Mark

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