On Sat, Jun 13, 2026 at 05:30 PM, Marv Gandall wrote:

> 
> there is no evidence their interests or of the US ruling class in general
> are dictating a turn to fascism

1. The new level of oppression is national and, with ups and downs, 
never-ending: ICE terror; rollbacks of food aid and labor rights; hemming in 
the unfettered right to vote; suppression of voices in academia. The victims 
suffer whether you call it fascism or not.

2. The front man tears up the old ideological covers of U.S. "democracy." His 
venom, vulgarity, and stupidity are unmatched in presidential history.

3. The capitalist class, the ruling elite, any significant section of them have 
not moved to shut this sh*t down. This is a turnaround from when they pushed 
out Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon.

Gandall is fixated on a historical comparison: the masses are not in motion 
toward revolution, so the ruling class cannot have turned to fascism. If an old 
pattern does not fit new developments, don't deny the facts –learn what is new.


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