The repercussions of Trump overturning the upcoming elections would be massive. It would spell the end of bourgeois democracy in the United States. I had a conversation with a couple of young DSA members the other day. They were campaigning for a candidate for local office here in Oakland. I pointed out Trump's very real threat to use the power of the presidency to steal the upcoming election and that anybody who is running for office - any office - should be using their campaign to warn about it and do what they can to organize a resistance. It was clear they had no idea what I was talking about. It wasn't that they lacked the information; it was that the very idea was beyond their imagination, totally outside their thought process. After all, the closest thing to anything like that which we've ever seen was when the Confederacy fired on Ft. Sumpter thereby starting the Civil War. But that was a war between two completely different economic systems - slavery and capitalism - in a completely different era in a bygone period of history. But if you listen to what Trump has been saying, if you realize that his entire party is under his control, if you look at what he's actually doing (as outlined in my article on Trump planning a legal version of January 6), it's living in a dream world not to take it seriously. And yet, those two young DSA members aren't alone. The great majority of socialists - including in DSA - are ignoring this threat. They're not talking about it, not talking about what can be done starting NOW to stop it. Instead they talk about this, that and the other reform that can be made. It's similar with those on this list. I see my post led to long and very learned discussions about what is Bonapartism, the difference between it and fascism, what Marx said, etc. They are hiding behind abstract theory to avoid confronting the actual facts of what is unfolding right before our eyes. I am reminded of the saying "Nero fiddles while Rome burns." John Reimann
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