And just to make sure that this #proposal doesn't go thru without further 
discussion, I want to make it clear that I'm voting -1 for now.
(This doesn't mean you can't change my mind, i.e. if my design counterproposal 
is really harder to implement that it looks..but really all I'm asking for is a 
move from top-level navigation to a subnavigation.)

Judy

On Feb 21, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Judy Stern wrote:

> While I agree that the Episode service is very valuable, from a UX 
> perspective, I think it is a mistake to have it available by default exactly 
> as is, for many reasons that I have explained in the earlier thread [3]. The 
> mockup you point to, Rüdiger, is the more ambitious one that I understand we 
> can not possibly implement at this time. I did also, however, propose two 
> simpler approaches, which keep the two UI's (one for looking at workflow 
> instances, the other for managing media packages) on separate pages but do 
> not make them seem so completely unrelated and do not introduce potentially 
> confusing terminology. In particular, Approach 2  [4] changes very little (I 
> believe, perhaps naively, it would be very easy to implement), but simply 
> makes both UI's available under the Recordings tab. I would like to propose 
> this (or something very similar) as a counterproposal.
> 
> Judy
> 
> [3] 
> http://opencast.3480289.n2.nabble.com/Renaming-the-quot-Recordings-quot-tab-proposal-td6783119i20.html#a6803786
> [4] 
> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/Keeping+Episodes+UI+Separate+from+Workflow+Instances+UI#KeepingEpisodesUISeparatefromWorkflowInstancesUI-Approach2
> 
> 
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ruediger Rolf wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> in the developer meeting today the question came up why the Episode UI [1] 
>> is not activated by default. Several people have not noticed this feature 
>> yet because of this.
>> 
>> There was some discussion on this UI when it was created and there was not 
>> been a concensus on this UI. So the solution to this was to deactivate by 
>> default. There were some
>> 
>> But the Episode service is one of the main enhancements in 1.3 and anyone in 
>> the dev meeting today felt sorry that most users cannot use it because of 
>> the hidden UI.
>> 
>> There is already a proposal on how to combine the workflow and the episode 
>> service in the UI [2], but implementing this is out of focus for 1.3 and 
>> maybe even for 1.4 as no one has himself commited to this feature yet.
>> 
>> So the proposal is to active the "episode" UI despite all concerns, with no 
>> or only minor changes (changing the name of the tab i.e.). We want to avoid 
>> a long discussion that may delay the release, as we hope that the release is 
>> only one release blocker away... so let us keep the discussion short and 
>> give your +1 or -1.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Rüdiger
>> 
>> [1] see here how to activated this: 
>> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/The+Episode+Service
>> [2] I hope I found the right mockup: 
>> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/Combining+Episodes+and+Workflow+Instances
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
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