On 2/23/2012 4:00 AM, Ruediger Rolf wrote:
> Hi Judy,
> 
> okay. Then this is probably stopped, as no one has supported this and
> you block this. I hope you are available on the matterhorn users-list
> after the release to explain to adopters how they can activate the
> episode management in their release.

We'll have to remember to pull it from the 1.3 features list too,
otherwise people are going to expect it to be there...

G

> Rüdiger
> 
> Am 22.02.2012 17:50, schrieb Judy Stern:
>> And just to make sure that this #proposal doesn't go thru without
>> further discussion, I want to make it clear that I'm voting -1 for now.
>> (This doesn't mean you can't change my mind, i.e. if my design
>> counterproposal is really harder to implement that it looks..but
>> really all I'm asking for is a move from top-level navigation to a
>> subnavigation.)
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Judy Stern wrote:
>>
>>> While I agree that the Episode service is very valuable, from a UX
>>> perspective, I think it is a mistake to have it available by default
>>> exactly as is, for many reasons that I have explained in the earlier
>>> thread [3]. The mockup you point to, Rüdiger, is the more ambitious
>>> one that I understand we can not possibly implement at this time. I
>>> did also, however, propose two simpler approaches, which keep the two
>>> UI's (one for looking at workflow instances, the other for managing
>>> media packages) on separate pages but do not make them seem so
>>> completely unrelated and do not introduce potentially confusing
>>> terminology. In particular, Approach 2  [4] changes very little (I
>>> believe, perhaps naively, it would be very easy to implement), but
>>> simply makes both UI's available under the Recordings tab. I would
>>> like to propose this (or something very similar) as a counterproposal.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>> [3]
>>> http://opencast.3480289.n2.nabble.com/Renaming-the-quot-Recordings-quot-tab-proposal-td6783119i20.html#a6803786
>>>
>>> [4]
>>> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/Keeping+Episodes+UI+Separate+from+Workflow+Instances+UI#KeepingEpisodesUISeparatefromWorkflowInstancesUI-Approach2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ruediger Rolf wrote:
>>>> Hi list,
>>>>
>>>> in the developer meeting today the question came up why the Episode
>>>> UI [1] is not activated by default. Several people have not noticed
>>>> this feature yet because of this.
>>>>
>>>> There was some discussion on this UI when it was created and there
>>>> was not been a concensus on this UI. So the solution to this was to
>>>> deactivate by default. There were some
>>>>
>>>> But the Episode service is one of the main enhancements in 1.3 and
>>>> anyone in the dev meeting today felt sorry that most users cannot
>>>> use it because of the hidden UI.
>>>>
>>>> There is already a proposal on how to combine the workflow and the
>>>> episode service in the UI [2], but implementing this is out of focus
>>>> for 1.3 and maybe even for 1.4 as no one has himself commited to
>>>> this feature yet.
>>>>
>>>> So the proposal is to active the "episode" UI despite all concerns,
>>>> with no or only minor changes (changing the name of the tab i.e.).
>>>> We want to avoid a long discussion that may delay the release, as we
>>>> hope that the release is only one release blocker away... so let us
>>>> keep the discussion short and give your +1 or -1.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Rüdiger
>>>>
>>>> [1] see here how to activated this:
>>>> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/The+Episode+Service
>>>> [2] I hope I found the right mockup:
>>>> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/Combining+Episodes+and+Workflow+Instances
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
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