Rüdiger, My intention was not to block, but to ensure that a (potentially) very simple sol'n to the UX issues was considered before we move forward. As I said, it wouldn't take much to get me to reverse my vote. Did you look at the design I proposed?
Judy On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:00 AM, Ruediger Rolf wrote: > Hi Judy, > > okay. Then this is probably stopped, as no one has supported this and you > block this. I hope you are available on the matterhorn users-list after the > release to explain to adopters how they can activate the episode management > in their release. > > Rüdiger > > Am 22.02.2012 17:50, schrieb Judy Stern: >> And just to make sure that this #proposal doesn't go thru without further >> discussion, I want to make it clear that I'm voting -1 for now. >> (This doesn't mean you can't change my mind, i.e. if my design >> counterproposal is really harder to implement that it looks..but really all >> I'm asking for is a move from top-level navigation to a subnavigation.) >> >> Judy >> >> On Feb 21, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Judy Stern wrote: >> >>> While I agree that the Episode service is very valuable, from a UX >>> perspective, I think it is a mistake to have it available by default >>> exactly as is, for many reasons that I have explained in the earlier thread >>> [3]. The mockup you point to, Rüdiger, is the more ambitious one that I >>> understand we can not possibly implement at this time. I did also, however, >>> propose two simpler approaches, which keep the two UI's (one for looking at >>> workflow instances, the other for managing media packages) on separate >>> pages but do not make them seem so completely unrelated and do not >>> introduce potentially confusing terminology. In particular, Approach 2 [4] >>> changes very little (I believe, perhaps naively, it would be very easy to >>> implement), but simply makes both UI's available under the Recordings tab. >>> I would like to propose this (or something very similar) as a >>> counterproposal. >>> >>> Judy >>> >>> [3] >>> http://opencast.3480289.n2.nabble.com/Renaming-the-quot-Recordings-quot-tab-proposal-td6783119i20.html#a6803786 >>> [4] >>> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/Keeping+Episodes+UI+Separate+from+Workflow+Instances+UI#KeepingEpisodesUISeparatefromWorkflowInstancesUI-Approach2 >>> >>> >>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ruediger Rolf wrote: >>>> Hi list, >>>> >>>> in the developer meeting today the question came up why the Episode UI [1] >>>> is not activated by default. Several people have not noticed this feature >>>> yet because of this. >>>> >>>> There was some discussion on this UI when it was created and there was not >>>> been a concensus on this UI. So the solution to this was to deactivate by >>>> default. There were some >>>> >>>> But the Episode service is one of the main enhancements in 1.3 and anyone >>>> in the dev meeting today felt sorry that most users cannot use it because >>>> of the hidden UI. >>>> >>>> There is already a proposal on how to combine the workflow and the episode >>>> service in the UI [2], but implementing this is out of focus for 1.3 and >>>> maybe even for 1.4 as no one has himself commited to this feature yet. >>>> >>>> So the proposal is to active the "episode" UI despite all concerns, with >>>> no or only minor changes (changing the name of the tab i.e.). We want to >>>> avoid a long discussion that may delay the release, as we hope that the >>>> release is only one release blocker away... so let us keep the discussion >>>> short and give your +1 or -1. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Rüdiger >>>> >>>> [1] see here how to activated this: >>>> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/The+Episode+Service >>>> [2] I hope I found the right mockup: >>>> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/Combining+Episodes+and+Workflow+Instances >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________ >>>> Rüdiger Rolf, M.A. >>>> Universität Osnabrück - Zentrum virtUOS >>>> Heger-Tor-Wall 12, 49069 Osnabrück >>>> Telefon: (0541) 969-6511 - Fax: (0541) 969-16511 >>>> E-Mail: [email protected] >>>> Internet: www.virtuos.uni-osnabrueck.de >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Matterhorn mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe please email >>>> [email protected] >>>> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Matterhorn mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn >> >> >> To unsubscribe please email >> [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > -- > > ________________________________________________ > Rüdiger Rolf, M.A. > Universität Osnabrück - Zentrum virtUOS > Heger-Tor-Wall 12, 49069 Osnabrück > Telefon: (0541) 969-6511 - Fax: (0541) 969-16511 > E-Mail: [email protected] > Internet: www.virtuos.uni-osnabrueck.de > > _______________________________________________ > Matterhorn mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn > > > To unsubscribe please email > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Matterhorn mailing list [email protected] http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn To unsubscribe please email [email protected] _______________________________________________
