I personally filtered all the messages with the [JIRA] tag to a particular
label in GMail. I enter there from time to time to check if there's
anything interesting. As the issues I'm involved in still appear in other
labels I check daily, I never miss a important tickets.

So Michelle's proposal wouldn't differ much from what I've got now. Of
course, I'm +1 on that

Rubén Pérez
TELTEK Video Research
www.teltek.es



2012/12/3 Tobias Wunden <[email protected]>

> Hi Michelle,
>
> I think the original reason for sending JIRA ticket updates to list was
> that there is quite some discussion going on in the tickets themselves
> rather than on list. However, you are right that it produces a lot of
> noise. From my point of view, I am happy sticking to "what has not been on
> list diddn't happen" and not send ticket updates to list automatically.
> Especially if we can offer a filter for those still interested.
>
> I am curios to see what others are thinking.
>
> Tobias
>
> On 27.11.2012, at 15:06, Michelle Ziegmann <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Although, this raises an thought for the matterhorn@ list. Do we want
> to continue to send all Jira activity to the list? Do you all find this
> useful? If not everyone wants this, then we could do it differently. We can
> create a filter in Jira that shows all matterhorn issues and those who want
> this could subscribe to the filter individually.
> >
> > Just a thought...
> >
> > Michelle
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject:      Re: [Opencast Matterhorn] Migration of Opencast's mailing
> lists to Google Apps/Groups
> > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:32:27 -0800
> > From: Michelle Ziegmann <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To:     [email protected]
> > Organization: University of California Berkeley
> > To:   Opencast Matterhorn <[email protected]>,
> [email protected], [email protected]
> >
> > Matjaz,
> >
> > Thank you for pointing this out - I hadn't thought about sending limits,
> > so I'm glad you brought this up.
> >
> > However, it looks like this shouldn't be an issue for us. The references
> > you provided are referring to sending limits per user by email. The
> > sending limits through Google Groups messages is much higher. Also note
> > that we are using the paid Google Apps for Business edition (1 user
> > license), which has greater allowances than the free or trial edition.
> > The limits are as follows:
> >
> > Total recipients per group: 6,200,000 per hour
> > Total external recipients per group: 10,000 per day
> > Total external recipients per domain: 10,000 per day
> >
> > With these limits I think we should be okay for a while. Our largest
> > group - community@ - currently has 730 subscribers. See
> >
> >
> http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2524618&topic=14869&ctx=topic
> > .
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Michelle
> >
> > On 11/26/12 3:15 PM, Matjaz Batic Finzgar wrote:
> > > I thing the issue will be the limit of 500 external recipients per
> > > message.
> > >
> >
> http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=166852&from=166862&rd=1
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > more info:
> > >
> > http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=167085
> >
> > >
> > > Best regards, Matjaz
> > >
> > > On 26.11.2012 20:36, Michelle Ziegmann wrote:
> > >> Hello everyone - sorry to cross-post, but this proposal concerns all
> > >> Opencast mailing lists.
> > >>
> > >> The Opencast board and Matterhorn committers have been piloting the
> > >> use of the service Google Groups for Business under a Google Apps
> > >> Opencast instance. Finding the service to work very well - with the
> > >> exception of 1 known issue (see below) - we would like to proceed and
> > >> migrate all of Opencast's mailing lists to this new service beginning
> > >> in December.
> > >>
> > >> The benefits gained from moving to Google Apps for our mailing lists
> > >> are:
> > >> - No organization needs to maintain a mailing list server, or
> > >> contribute a systems administrator to maintain it (this has been an
> > >> issue)
> > >> - Better list management tools and features, improved spam control
> > >> (makes Michelle happy)
> > >> - Ability for users to create and subscribe to a single thread, as
> > >> opposed to having to join a list in order to ask a question (the
> > >> requirement to subscribe to a list in order to ask a support question
> > >> is a barrier for some)
> > >> - Ability for users to respond to old posts (people try to do this
> > >> frequently through Nabble, but it doesn't usually work)
> > >> - Integrated mailing list and archive (the Nabble archive confuses
> > >> several people each week)
> > >>
> > >> Known Issue: If your email address is managed under a different
> > >> instance of Google Apps, you may not be able to subscribe to an
> > >> Opencast mailing list with that email address. For example,
> > >> @berkeley.edu email is now managed through Google Apps, and I cannot
> > >> subscribe
> > [email protected]
> >  to an Opencast mailing list on
> > >> Google. I believe this is because Berkeley has not enabled Google
> > >> Groups in their Google instance (I can subscribe with a different
> > >> Google-managed email address in which Groups has been enabled), so
> > >> not all Google-managed email addresses may experience this problem.
> > >> The workaround is to subscribe under a different email address or ask
> > >> your Google Apps administrators to enable Groups.
> > >>
> > >> The other big change you should be aware of is that the domain name
> > >> for the mailing lists will change. We have been slowly moving away
> > >> from our original opencastproject.org domain toward the more recently
> > >> acquired opencast.org, since Opencast is more than a single project.
> So
> > >>
> > [email protected] will become [email protected]
> > .
> > >> Less typing is a good thing, but will take some time before we all
> > >> get our autocompletes updated.
> > >>
> > >> The migration effort will involve setting up the mailing lists and
> > >> adding all current mailing list subscribers to the Google groups. The
> > >> old mailing lists will remain active for some time during the
> > >> transition, but will include a reminder to discontinue using the old
> > >> lists. We could possibly also set up old posts to forward to the new
> > >> list automatically. Any suggestions for a smoother transition are
> > >> appreciated. At some point, we also need to consider what to do about
> > >> the old Nabble archives. We will start building a new archive in our
> > >> Google instance, so Nabble will soon become irrelevant, redundant and
> > >> confusing to keep around - a discussion for another day though I
> think.
> > >>
> > >> If you have any concerns or comments about the migration to Google
> > >> Apps/Google Groups, please let us know ASAP. I hope to initiate the
> > >> migration effort during the month of December, as long as there are
> > >> no concerns raised by the community.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> Michelle
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Michelle Ziegmann PMP
> > Technical Project Manager
> > Educational Technology Services
> > University of California Berkeley
> >
> >
> >
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