Just a reminder that I plan to migrate this ([email protected]) 
list to [email protected]. There may be a period of time where the list 
is unavailable. I expect you will receive an email when you are subscribed tot 
he new mailing list. 

I will email both lists when the migration is complete. 

Michelle


On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Michelle Ziegmann wrote:

> Sorry for the delay of this proposal. It seems all were in favor of this 
> move, and the pilot lists have been working fine, so let's go for it. I 
> propose we do this one list at a time, starting with this one (matterhorn@).
> 
> I would like to start the migration next Wednesday, Feb 13 at the end of the 
> west coast day (starting around 3pm PST). I have the new list set up and 
> ready to go at [email protected] (note the domain name change). Here's 
> a rough order of the steps that will happen:
> 
> 1. Jaime will send a list of all mailman [email protected] 
> subscribers to Michelle at 3pm
> 2. Michelle will subscribe all of these members to [email protected]
> 3. Michelle will add an auto-reply to the mailman list, alerting people the 
> the list is no longer active, with information pointing to the new list.
> 4. Michelle will activate "emergency moderation" on the mailman list and 
> close off any new subscriptions. This way no messages will accidentally go to 
> the old list.
> 5. Michelle will send a notice to both lists, letting you all know the 
> transition is complete.
> 
> Have I missed anything? Jaime, are you available at that time? We'll note any 
> rough points in the transition process, and incorporate lessons learned into 
> the next phase of migrating matterhorn-users@ and community@. I propose we 
> plan on migrating those lists the following week, possibly 2/19. That is, 
> unless anyone feels we should just get it over with all at once, and move 
> those 2 lists the following day, Feb 14, assuming all goes well.
> 
> Thanks!
> Michelle
> 
> 
> On 11/26/2012 11:36 AM, Michelle Ziegmann wrote:
>> Hello everyone - sorry to cross-post, but this proposal concerns all 
>> Opencast mailing lists.
>> 
>> The Opencast board and Matterhorn committers have been piloting the use of 
>> the service Google Groups for Business under a Google Apps Opencast 
>> instance. Finding the service to work very well - with the exception of 1 
>> known issue (see below) - we would like to proceed and migrate all of 
>> Opencast's mailing lists to this new service beginning in December.
>> 
>> The benefits gained from moving to Google Apps for our mailing lists are:
>> - No organization needs to maintain a mailing list server, or contribute a 
>> systems administrator to maintain it (this has been an issue)
>> - Better list management tools and features, improved spam control (makes 
>> Michelle happy)
>> - Ability for users to create and subscribe to a single thread, as opposed 
>> to having to join a list in order to ask a question (the requirement to 
>> subscribe to a list in order to ask a support question is a barrier for some)
>> - Ability for users to respond to old posts (people try to do this 
>> frequently through Nabble, but it doesn't usually work)
>> - Integrated mailing list and archive (the Nabble archive confuses several 
>> people each week)
>> 
>> Known Issue: If your email address is managed under a different instance of 
>> Google Apps, you may not be able to subscribe to an Opencast mailing list 
>> with that email address. For example, @berkeley.edu email is now managed 
>> through Google Apps, and I cannot subscribe [email protected] to an 
>> Opencast mailing list on Google. I believe this is because Berkeley has not 
>> enabled Google Groups in their Google instance (I can subscribe with a 
>> different Google-managed email address in which Groups has been enabled), so 
>> not all Google-managed email addresses may experience this problem. The 
>> workaround is to subscribe under a different email address or ask your 
>> Google Apps administrators to enable Groups.
>> 
>> The other big change you should be aware of is that the domain name for the 
>> mailing lists will change. We have been slowly moving away from our original 
>> opencastproject.org domain toward the more recently acquired opencast.org, 
>> since Opencast is more than a single project. So
>> [email protected] will become [email protected]. Less 
>> typing is a good thing, but will take some time before we all get our 
>> autocompletes updated.
>> 
>> The migration effort will involve setting up the mailing lists and adding 
>> all current mailing list subscribers to the Google groups. The old mailing 
>> lists will remain active for some time during the transition, but will 
>> include a reminder to discontinue using the old lists. We could possibly 
>> also set up old posts to forward to the new list automatically. Any 
>> suggestions for a smoother transition are appreciated. At some point, we 
>> also need to consider what to do about the old Nabble archives. We will 
>> start building a new archive in our Google instance, so Nabble will soon 
>> become irrelevant, redundant and confusing to keep around - a discussion for 
>> another day though I think.
>> 
>> If you have any concerns or comments about the migration to Google 
>> Apps/Google Groups, please let us know ASAP. I hope to initiate the 
>> migration effort during the month of December, as long as there are no 
>> concerns raised by the community.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Michelle
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michelle Ziegmann PMP
> Technical Project Manager
> Educational Technology Services
> University of California Berkeley
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