Hi Tamara

The 'search within site' on Google seems to have been rolled out based
on either a random sample, or a weighted sample based on volume of
search traffic. (probably the latter actually)

We *do* use a Google Custom Search as our generic 'site search' on our
site (www.powerhousemuseum.com/search) BUT we have built our own (and
quite well known) collection search application (discussed in detail on
Fresh & New as well as written up over at
http://www.archimuse.com/mw2007/papers/chan/chan.html).

The Google CSE is excellent for our generic search and does pretty much
everything a 'general' visitor needs. Our collection search is much more
complex and does a lot more than just search - we continue to build
extra features, the latest of which will go live in a few days, all of
which enhance the user experience and functionality).

Google CSE has the advantage of -

a) being free (and without adverts if you are govt or non profit)
b) familiar to users
c) forces you to work on exposing your deep web content to Google

(c) is the main game. Not only should your deep web content be exposed
to end users, it also needs to be exposed to search.

Seb



Sebastian Chan 
Manager, Web Services 
Powerhouse Museum 
street - 500 Harris St Ultimo, NSW Australia 
postal - PO Box K346, Haymarket, NSW 1238 
tel - 61 2 9217 0109 
fax - 61 2 9217 0689
e - sebc at phm.gov.au 
w - www.powerhousemuseum.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Tamara Georgick
Sent: Friday, 28 March 2008 10:15 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Effects of Google's 'search within site'?
Anyoneelseaffected?

I noticed this for the first time yesterday when searching for the King
County Library System, here in Washington State.  I thought it might
have been something specific they did to facilitate having the extra
search box appear.  Now that you mention it, how does Google determine
which site searches will return that feature?  Does the end site need to
have the Google search tool embedded locally?
 
We are in the midst of building a more database driven web site and I am
curious about the approach others have taken.  Did you build global
navigation yourself, or opt for a 3rd party tool like the Google search?
We have lots of "products" that require their own search capabilities,
so we figured as long as we were doing that, we might as well just build
our own global search tool for greater integration.  However, to search
all of the products at once, I am thinking of going for a commercial
federated search product like Aquabrowser.  I think it will be able to
search across products and platforms and has a nice tag cloud on the
results screen.  If anyone has experience with a federated search
product, I'd love to hear your experience. Thanks!
 
Tamara
 
 
 
 
Tamara Georgick
Washington State Historical Society

________________________________

From: Chan, Sebastian [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu 3/27/2008 3:36 AM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
Subject: [MCN-L] Effects of Google's 'search within site'? Anyone
elseaffected?



Folks

I'm curious to hear if anyone else has been affected by Google's
'search-within-site' feature they have recently rolled out . . . .

I've blogged in detail about what it is over at Fresh & New . . . .

http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/dmsblog/index.php/2008/03/27/google-tele
portation-googles-search-within-search/

If you are affected, what, if anything are you doing about it?

if you are not (yet), what might you do.

Curious.

Seb

Sebastian Chan
Manager, Web Services
Powerhouse Museum
street - 500 Harris St Ultimo, NSW Australia postal - PO Box K346,
Haymarket, NSW 1238 tel - 61 2 9217 0109 fax - 61 2 9217 0689 e -
sebc at phm.gov.au w - www.powerhousemuseum.com b -
www.powerhousemuseum.com/dmsblog



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