Hi Ellice,

We have a lot of video currently hosted on YouTube at the DAM. We're still 
using it for some purpose, but we've recently been moving away from it for some 
purposes, as well.

Regarding copyright: I think the biggest risk of copyright issues on youtube is 
that it has a very large audience and automated takedown systems regularly scan 
the content there. It's just more likely that some automated system will flag a 
video—any video—for takedown, often incorrectly. It really depends on what 
you're putting up there.

The reason we're moving away from youtube for much of our content has more to 
do with YouTube's recommendation algorithm and the decreasing amount of control 
we have over YouTube embeds in web pages. There is currently no way to reliably 
turn off the grid of recommendations that appears in a youtube video after it 
has finished playing. It used to be an API feature that we could decide to 
enable or disable depending on our use case, but lately the grid just appears 
whether we like it or not.

We have no control over what shows up in those recommendations, and a 
significant amount of the content on YouTube is problematic in one way or 
another (extremism, racism, violence, etc.). We don't want to appear to the 
unitiated user as though we are tacitly supporting or recommending whatever 
YouTube's algorithm decides to show when our video is done playing. 

It's different for video that is viewed on YouTube's site. Users know who is 
running the show there. But increasingly, when embedding video content on web 
pages we are using Vimeo because we have more control over the embeds.

Also, as YouTube continues to pursue monetization strategies that privilege ads 
and advertisers, we anticipate service changes that would be at odds with our 
goals as an institution. It's easier to start moving to a different service now 
when we have time to adjust then to find ourselves moving to that service in a 
panicked rush after changes occur. The benefit of paying for a video hosting 
service is you know what you are getting and can be more assured that, aside 
from possible price increases, the service isn't going to pull the rug out from 
under you without warning.

Matt Popke
Developer
720.913.0126
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    Hello, all,
    
    While we have plenty of "modern" video out on YouTube, we currently host 
most our historic and collections-item videos (e.g. oral history video clips) 
on a private streaming platform.  We don't use much of the functionality 
provided by the private platform, so the question has come up whether YouTube 
would meet our needs as a player.
    
    Some questions/potential concerns that have passed through my head:
    
    
      1.  Are there potentially different copyright implications to private 
hosting than to YouTube?  What if we made the YouTube videos unlisted so we 
were simply using it as a player?
      2.  Has anyone had (or is/was concerned about having) historic video 
challenged or taken down as in violation of YouTube's community standards?
    
    Can anyone weigh in on these?  And are there other issues to contemplate 
that I am missing?  If the people at your institution who would make such 
decisions are not on the MCN listserv, I'd love it if you'd pass this along to 
them-I will take any and all input, on- or off-list.
    
    If you've chosen to use a private streaming service in addition to or 
instead of YouTube, I'd be interested to know what additional value you think 
it brings.
    
    Thanks!
    
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