Hi Ellice - We have lots of videos on YouTube and are currently adding on the order of 100 each year. We think of YT as another social media outlet, and it's an important distribution channel for us. Agree with Matt about the lack of control over the content that's delivered at the end of the videos, but that has a lot to do with the user and their own watching habits. Just like any other social media platform, this needs to be managed, and you need to keep up with the changes - it requires care and feeding. I think it's important that you have a social media person or marketing/communications team that can manage this platform - that's got to be part of the investment.
YT isn't the only place our videos are hosted - this is not our archive. We also post a lot to Vimeo (mostly produced promotional videos), and all of our public programs documentation videos originate on the Livestream platform. Everything is archived on-site as well. We are about to embark on a Mellon-funded project to create an online archive for our public programs documentation videos, and we may move choose a different host for this, but I don't think we will stop also posting to YT. Another important thing for us is the auto-captioning YT provides. As part of UCLA, we are a government entity and have to comply with ADA requirements for accessibility. Without the captioning provided by YT for free, we would have to take on this expense and And yes, we have had videos blocked and taken down for copyright, AND our account was blocked from live broadcasting on YT for 3 months. It's all robots-managed and there is virtually nothing you can do about it - it's super frustrating. I have tried to appeal many ways, many times, to no avail! Hope this helps - happy to discuss more! Susan Susan Edwards Associate Director, Digital Content Hammer Museum 10899 Wilshire Bl Los Angeles, CA 90024 [email protected] On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:50 AM Matt Popke <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ellice, > > We have a lot of video currently hosted on YouTube at the DAM. We're still > using it for some purpose, but we've recently been moving away from it for > some purposes, as well. > > Regarding copyright: I think the biggest risk of copyright issues on > youtube is that it has a very large audience and automated takedown systems > regularly scan the content there. It's just more likely that some automated > system will flag a video—any video—for takedown, often incorrectly. It > really depends on what you're putting up there. > > The reason we're moving away from youtube for much of our content has more > to do with YouTube's recommendation algorithm and the decreasing amount of > control we have over YouTube embeds in web pages. There is currently no way > to reliably turn off the grid of recommendations that appears in a youtube > video after it has finished playing. It used to be an API feature that we > could decide to enable or disable depending on our use case, but lately the > grid just appears whether we like it or not. > > We have no control over what shows up in those recommendations, and a > significant amount of the content on YouTube is problematic in one way or > another (extremism, racism, violence, etc.). We don't want to appear to the > unitiated user as though we are tacitly supporting or recommending whatever > YouTube's algorithm decides to show when our video is done playing. > > It's different for video that is viewed on YouTube's site. Users know who > is running the show there. But increasingly, when embedding video content > on web pages we are using Vimeo because we have more control over the > embeds. > > Also, as YouTube continues to pursue monetization strategies that > privilege ads and advertisers, we anticipate service changes that would be > at odds with our goals as an institution. It's easier to start moving to a > different service now when we have time to adjust then to find ourselves > moving to that service in a panicked rush after changes occur. The benefit > of paying for a video hosting service is you know what you are getting and > can be more assured that, aside from possible price increases, the service > isn't going to pull the rug out from under you without warning. > > Matt Popke > Developer > 720.913.0126 > [email protected] > > > On 10/14/19, 07:32, "mcn-l on behalf of Ellice Engdahl" < > [email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > > Hello, all, > > While we have plenty of "modern" video out on YouTube, we currently > host most our historic and collections-item videos (e.g. oral history video > clips) on a private streaming platform. We don't use much of the > functionality provided by the private platform, so the question has come up > whether YouTube would meet our needs as a player. > > Some questions/potential concerns that have passed through my head: > > > 1. Are there potentially different copyright implications to > private hosting than to YouTube? What if we made the YouTube videos > unlisted so we were simply using it as a player? > 2. Has anyone had (or is/was concerned about having) historic video > challenged or taken down as in violation of YouTube's community standards? > > Can anyone weigh in on these? And are there other issues to > contemplate that I am missing? If the people at your institution who would > make such decisions are not on the MCN listserv, I'd love it if you'd pass > this along to them-I will take any and all input, on- or off-list. > > If you've chosen to use a private streaming service in addition to or > instead of YouTube, I'd be interested to know what additional value you > think it brings. > > Thanks! > > ................................................. > Gain Perspective. Get Inspired. 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