UDA si urang awak, yg dimaksud women have rights to have sex with whom they are
willing to do it saya rasa bukan berarti having sexual intercourse between
those who are related by blood or marriage (incest) apalagi hewan
piaraan...kalaupun ada yg lebih suka berintimasi dgn hewan its a more like a
mental problem not a legal problem, gak pernah kan denger ada org masuk penjara
karena masturbasi depan biawak nya? or bersenggama dgn kambingnya? mereka bukan
masuk penjara tetapi physciatric hospital maybe (smile).
Saya bukan feminist, tetapi pendukung hak2 wanita utk memutuskan apa yg
terbaik utk hidup dan tubuhnya, kalau aborsi itu yg terbaik, why not ? selama
tidak merusak kesehatan nya, saya pikir feminist dan men sering gontok2an
karena men gak suka disaingi apalagi oleh mahluk wanita...sebenarnya feminisme
bukan utk menyerang kaum lelaki tetapi utk menuntut hak nya sebagai wanita dan
sebagai manusia, menuntut persamaan hak dan itu tentunya sehat2 saja..kalaupun
ada feminist yg blak2an benci pada lelaki itu personal issue tentunya, saya
banyak teman feminist disini, sebagian okay2 saja dan bersikap normal tak beda
dgn saya, ada juga yg bersikap sangat maskulin seperti ingin menyaingi lelaki
hingga dalam pembentukan pisik nya..nah ini yg saya sebut "dike" well...ini an
american slang tentunya, it started out spelled "dyke"wich separates it from
the sea wall around Holland, its a very derogatory term for female homosexual
or lesbian, saya disini salah satu member dari club Harley
Davidson (walau udah lama gak ride bike again karena teman baik saya Audy
sering khawatir kalau saya nunggang motor bermesin kuat ini, hampir 50% temen2
biker saya adalah feminist...mereka hidupnya sangat bebas, tidak tergantung
pada keputusan2 lelaki, mereka hidup dalam dunianya tanpa harus menganggu kaum
lelaki atau org2 lain, and I really have no problem with that whatswhoever,
kadang2 kami minum bir sama2 di cafe setelah ride bike seharian..kalau saya
tanya " apakah kalian gak pernah tertarik sama cowo eh?"
mereka jawabnya selalu sama " hmm they re okay, just little assholes, thats
all"
hahahahahahahhaaaa....
salam
omie
Deddy Mansyur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mbak Nana,
Not sure about this one:
They are free to do anything they want to do with their bodies; namely to
choose what clothes to wear to cover their bodies, to have sex with whom they
are willing to do it, to be pregnant with their sex partner(s) that they want,
until to get abortion when they dont want the fetus to grow up. And not to
forget with the advanced technology that can make a woman pregnant without
having sex with a man, or without sperm produced by a man.
I don't think women can have sex with their fathers or their sons or their
dogs.
I've been around for a while, know what I mean. Some of my female karate
students at the University of Houston are feminists. They love to argue with
men but not with this UDA urang awak, know what I mean.
I think being a feminist is just fine with me. But when feminists try to
attack men because they are just upset with men that men control the world, we
need to talk peacefully.
Mbak Nana, whatever it is - I love you baby.
salam,
sensei deddy mansyur
university of houston
www.uh.edu/shotokan
www.houstonshotokan.com
PS: sometimes it is tough being young - alhamdulillah I got to 50 something,
I am healthy and I am still alive with a wife, 3 boys, 1 dog, 4 cats, 1 bird
and 100 karate students.
----- Original Message -----
From: Nana P
To: Perempuan ; Rumahkitabersama
Cc: Sastra ; apakabar ; Mediacare ; Zamanku ; PPI India ; FIKI ; FPK Kompas
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 4:56 AM
Subject: [mediacare] Abortion
http://afeministblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/abortion.html
There is a very interesting article I found in one mailing list I join. It is
about the legal abortion law in Tunisia, one country whose population is 99%
Muslim. You can find it at http://dedepermana.blogspot.com (the article is in
Bahasa).
As a feminist who believes that women must control their bodies by themselves,
and not other peoplesuch as their parents, husbands, boyfriends, or the
country where they liveof course I do agree that option to have abortion is
exclusively in a womans hand. Womenespecially those who are more than
seventeen years old so that they can be considered as mature enough to make big
decisions for their own lifemust really control their own bodies. They are
free to do anything they want to do with their bodies; namely to choose what
clothes to wear to cover their bodies, to have sex with whom they are willing
to do it, to be pregnant with their sex partner(s) that they want, until to get
abortion when they dont want the fetus to grow up. And not to forget with the
advanced technology that can make a woman pregnant without having sex with a
man, or without sperm produced by a man.
Some advantages from practicing abortion legally in my opinion (there must be a
strict regulation though; that is to do the abortion before the pregnancy
reaches three months old)
1. There will not be any baby born without being needed and wanted by the
mother, so that it will create a very good emotional bond between the mother
and the baby. I assume that many babies are born from a mother who is not
mentally and psychologically ready so that it can cause the mother to neglect
the baby. Feeling neglected by the mother will create psychologically
troublesome kid.
2. There will not be any new-born baby disposed in a garbage can, for example.
It often happens in Indonesia because many women who get pregnant accidentally
are not ready to get their babies, but they cannot get professional treatment
for abortion. To avoid shame to deliver baby out of wedlock, many women dispose
their babies.
3. All babies will be born in a ready family so that they will be raised well;
mentally, psychologically, socially, and financially. They can get good
education to pursue their future. This will result in a good future for the
country as well.
4. No woman will die uselessly because she has to face unprofessional,
unhygienic and careless abortion.
5. It helps succeed the governments program to control birth (the governments
family planning program). When the government succeeds to decrease the birth
rate, the government will be able to give their best service to the citizens
because they do not need much and much money for the citizens welfare (to
provide good facilities for education, health, food and drink, transportation,
etc).
To end this short article, I want to quote what Germaine Greer stated in her
book THE WHOLE WOMAN:
What women won was the right to undergo invasive procedures in order to
terminate unwanted pregnancies, unwanted not just by them but by their parents,
their sexual partners, the governments who would not support mothers, the
employers who would not employ mothers, the landlords who would not accept
tenants with children, the schools that would not accepts students with
children. (p. 86)
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