Fwiw, Im of the opinion that its borderline but ok.

I would be annoyed if there was subsequent advertisements for this service.
Or if there were a lot of these types of messages on this list. But an
initial announcement of a new wiki hosting service with wide applicability
that is being run by people well known in the mediawiki ecosystem seems ok
to me for this list.

--
Brian

On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, Yaron Koren <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> At the risk of starting an unnecessary argument, let me say that I think
> this kind of email is fine. Paid support is a form of help/support, so even
> though the mailing list description doesn't specifically list consulting as
> one of the allowed topics, it seems to me that it fits within the "spirit
> of the law", if not the letter (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law). Of course,
> spamming the list is never a good idea, but a single email sent to announce
> a new consulting company seems fine - and, of course, potentially useful to
> people looking for help.
>
> (Full disclosure: I too am a consultant. And I know Jeroen and Karsten.)
>
> -Yaron
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 4:41 PM Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This seems to me to be an advertisement for commercial services that was
> > sent to a mailing list that is operated by a nonprofit and is intended
> for
> > MediaWiki system administrators. The description if the mailing list is
> > "This is a multilingual list for help/support with running/configuring
> > MediaWiki. It is intended for people who are running wikis with the
> > MediaWiki software and for announcements of new versions, bug fixes, and
> > security issues." It seems to me that advertising commercial services
> here
> > is well outside of the intended purposes of this list, and is a misuse of
> > Wikimedia Foundation resources.
> >
> > Pine
> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 8, 2019, 13:07 Professional.Wiki <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > >
> > > We are happy to announce the launch of our new wiki company:
> > > Professional.Wiki <https://professional.wiki/>.
> > >
> > >
> > > Professional.Wiki's mission is to provide customer-focused wiki
> services
> > > that are both holistic and of high quality. Because of our strong
> > > involvement in the MediaWiki and Semantic MediaWiki worlds over the
> last
> > > ten years, we can provide a unique set of professional services to
> > > companies that have a wiki or want to use one.
> > >
> > >
> > > Our services <https://professional.wiki/en/services>cover all your
> wiki
> > > needs, including wiki hosting <https://professional.wiki/en/hosting>,
> > > wiki setup and creation, wiki management, training, advice,
> professional
> > > support and custom development.
> > >
> > >
> > > To celebrate our launch we provide a limited time discount on our
> > > hosting plans. Contact us <https://professional.wiki/en/contact>before
> > > May 20th, 2019 to get a 20% discount on one of our hosting plans. All
> > > our hosting plans <https://professional.wiki/en/hosting>include free
> > > professional support and Semantic MediaWiki.
> > >
> > >
> > > Subscribe to our mailing list <http://professional.wiki/en/newsletter
> >to
> > > receive tips and tricks, wiki news and exclusive promotions. Please
> also
> > > follow us on Twitter <https://twitter.com/ProWikiExperts>.
> > >
> > >
> > > We will remain involved in the community, contributing to the software,
> > > documentation and discourse. Indeed, we hope to introduce more
> companies
> > > to the wonders of wikis and thus strengthen both the community and
> > > software.
> > >
> > >
> > > For more information, please visit our website Professional.Wiki
> > > <http://professional.wiki/>or contact us
> > > <https://professional.wiki/en/contact>.
> > >
> > >
> > > Karsten and Jeroen
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Professional.Wiki – Jeroen De Dauw & Karsten Hoffmeyer GbR
> > >
> > > Tieckstraße 24-25, 10115 Berlin
> > >
> > > +49 (30) 55 87 42 65
> > >
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > > https://professional.wiki/
> > >
> > > USt-IdNr. DE322440293
> > >
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