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We have Micromedex as well. We discovered that a lot depends on your
infrastructure and how well connected your PC is to the network. Also,
my PC is not scheduled to receive updates while the suspense file is
creating. I always upload from the desktop. I have told Meditech that we
need a validation tool to verify that all files where uploaded properly
before filing. Is there a DTS for this now? It could be the PC you are
using also and the version of the windows workstation that could be
playing a role. Meditech recommends uploading the files in two separate
batches and this enables a faster upload. We used a computer in IS, just
outside the network room, and the files loaded in about 16 hours doing
it this way. From my PC, typically it does take about 24-32 hours to
upload a suspense file and about 1 hour to file all the run drugs. I
upload into Test first, file and then check. Then I upload the suspense
into LIVE. I just discovered in TEST, that the Generic name dictionary
filed all generic names in the FS into TEST. Luckily, nothing happened
in LIVE but there is a DTS to fix this. It affects 5.4 SR2 only
apparently. I don't delete the file run because it automatically purges
the interactions index. You may also need to look at the amount of space
on your machine as this is probably causing an issue. We are getting our
own machine soon and I can't wait.

  I am looking at adding the dose range checking to TEST.  I wanted to
do Max dose first but it doesn't seem to work in Test. Does anyone know
if we need to add dose range checking in order to get maximum dose?

Thanks,
Ed

Edward Lanoue, RPh
Pharmacy Information Systems
Southwestern Vt Medical Center
100 Hospital Drive East
Bennington, VT 05201
phone: 802-447-5370
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thanks Terry, Wow, I was thinking that our run time seemed very
long..... have you had problems with interaction checking not working
when you delete the last run. When are you deleting it? Only after a
successful file , I would imagine.... I don't know that we have had this
problem with the monographs.........
I will check

Ron

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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:47 AM
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Ron,

Perhaps there are more issues that I'm aware of.  The allergy checking
seems to work well with Micromedex for us while I've seen complaints on
the list about FDB not screening well.   Within the last few weeks we've
sent numerous dose range corrections/suggestions to Micromedex for
editing.  Micromedex has been responsive in editing those where we have
shown good documentation.   I think the dose/range feature has/is
problematic for all vendors.  We recently submitted a request to
Micromedex because of the lack of a therapeutic dup alert for a COX2 and
Naproxen.  Micromedex suggested we had some flag set in Meditech
blocking this, which isn't the case at all.  I asked them to look at it
gain.

It takes our system about 36 to 48 hours to process a "run" which sure
seems like a long time and if something interrupts the process, we get
to start all over again (power flicker, etc).  If I don't delete the
last run, our Monographs don't populate the data fields and we can't
print them.  That is why I always delete the previous run.


Terry

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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:26 AM
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Cc: Schmoll, Lois; Darger, Dana
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Hi Terry,
We have a number of issues, the most critical are:

One of the problems was because of a buffer overflow that occurred while
loading file 42 of the 53 files into the system. We did not get any
warning or any indication that the upload did not complete properly nor
do we have any way to determine if all the files uploaded successfully.
I believe that we have a DTS now that has fixed this.

We have had issues with duplicates not flagging and interaction checking
on IV's not working.

The recommended updating process of Micromedex from Meditech leaves the
Pharmacy
without interaction checking for the majority of the  hours it takes to
upload and file . Meditech recommends deleting the old run as the first
step to the formulary upload process and it should not affect
interaction checking. The fact is that it indeed does leave the pharmacy
without interaction checking. We have changed this process so they are
without interaction checking only for a brief period by never deleting
the run files.  

Do you have any of the above issues??

thanks,

Ron McBride RN
Clinical Analyst
Meditech Workgroup

Rapid City Regional Hospital
353 Fairmont Blvd
Rapid City, SD 57701

Phone: 605-719-8032
     Fax: 605-719-4693
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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:10 AM
To: McBride, Ronald
Subject: RE: [MEDITECH-L] Micromedex vs First DataBank


Ron,

We are Magic Meditech 5.5 and have Micromedex/Ultimedex.  Can you
mention what your issues are?  We're having a few with erroneous dose
range alerts.

Terry

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Hello,
We are Magic 5.4.2 and are looking at switching from Micromedex to some
other Formulary service such as First DataBank. 
Is there anyone out there using First Databank? I would be interested to
know what your experience has been. We have had a number of issues with
Micromedex.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks,

Ron McBride RN
Clinical Analyst
Meditech Workgroup

Rapid City Regional Hospital
353 Fairmont Blvd
Rapid City, SD 57701

Phone: 605-719-8032
     Fax: 605-719-4693
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