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Title: Magic 5.5 SR1: BMV NDC number question

Hi Michelle-

I’m not sure where to start…all NDC numbers follow a very specific format, regardless of the manufacture. They are 11 digits, all in a 5-4-2 sequence.  The first five numbers are the manufacture, the middle four numbers are the drug, and the last two are the package.  For example, when the user is at the beside going to scan a package they don’t care who the manufacture was (the first 5 #’s) and they don’t care if it came from a bottle of 500 or a unit-dose pack (the last 2 #’s), they care that it’s Furosemide 40mg Tab (the middle 4 #’s)…or whatever.

 

Now here’s the wrinkle – some older NDC’s had a format of 4-4-2, and some NDC’s you’ll see only have 3 numbers in the middle ending up as 5-3-2.  On that last example you might be adding a zero in front of the 3 numbers for some billing adjudication, but for the most part leaving it as 5-3-2 is OK, and most likely no one here is changing those.

 

I have implemented BMV several times in both Magic and CS, and have sat through those MT calls, but this is the first time I’ve heard of moving NDC’s and a “master list”.  To my knowledge, and I would like to hear different it that’s the case, you’re on the right track – what needs to happen is for you to scan your Pharmacy Department and “attach” those items that come up Not Found in the Quick Add functionality.  Once your entire department is attached to the right entries, it’s critical moving forward that ALL items coming in the order on a daily basis get scanned as well to ensure they are correctly attached…even if they are the same item you’ve purchased in the past, the NDC’s can change.

 

Best of luck – Kevin.

 

PS – For the record, this obviously pertains to US NDC’s – Canadian DIN’s are a totally different issue.

 

 

 

Kevin McConnell, PharmD.

Clinical Consultant

(713)480-6810

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.RPhInformatics.com


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Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:08 PM
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Subject: [MEDITECH-L] Magic 5.5 SR1: BMV NDC number question

 

Dear L:

We have had our first conference call with Meditech about BMV. We were talking about NDC numbers, and they said that there was one “master” NDC number for a drug that had 11 digits, and that all the manufacturer’s NDC numbers were only 10 digits. We then would need to update all of our NDC numbers to this master one, and add all the manufacturer numbers to the ALT NDC number field.

Since I am relatively new to the field, I thought I understood that the NDC number was different for each manufacturer, and that you didn’t need to change all the NDC numbers in the drug dictionary – just use the one you use/buy most often, and add the other numbers to the ALT NDC number field.  I even have an algorithm that someone sent from the L, about how to change a 10 digit number to an 11 digit one.

Can someone shed some light on this for us? Do we need to get started with updating our NDC numbers? Where do we find this master list???

Thanks in advance for your help!

Michelle Pivonka, RN

Systems Analyst

Information Services

Sinai Health System

(773) 257-6020

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.sinai.org

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
Sir Winston Churchill

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