Yep, coming out with a phone and saying "it fully supports flash 10.1" could potentially be a major selling point when competing against others who have either no support, or only (sometimes partially) support older versions, though of course I have not done the specific market research to figure out the cost/benefit analysis there...
-- Katrina -----Original Message----- From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:11 PM To: Katrina Niolet Cc: 'Bernd Stramm'; 'Wichmann, Mats D'; [email protected] Subject: RE: [MeeGo-dev] Adobe Flash 10.1 on Meego Yeah ... I hope they're working on it, because the costs and benefits are significant, and the "market pundits" don't universally agree that Jobs is correct. It makes sense for Apple but not necessarily for Intel / Nokia. -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/ "A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." ~ Paul Erdos Quoting Katrina Niolet <[email protected]>: > Right, I'm just saying their decision should be based on business or > technical merits and not simply because some people just don't like flash. > > -- > Katrina > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:56 PM > To: Katrina Niolet > Cc: 'Bernd Stramm'; 'Wichmann, Mats D'; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] Adobe Flash 10.1 on Meego > > This is a strategic *business* decision, not a purely technical one. > Steve Jobs has made the strategic business decision that his platform > will not support Flash. What is Intel/Nokia's decision? > > Do they think Steve Jobs is wrong? Are they willing to finance open > source Flash libraries that actually work? Are there patents that > would prevent that? Are they willing to license Adobe technology if > that's required to "support Flash?" > > I use openSUSE 11.2 as my principal desktop. I've tried all the > available open source Flash plug-ins and there are sites that I visit > that won't play with any of them. Novell has made some kind of deal > with Adobe to allow me to run Adobe's plug-in on my desktop, and the > Adobe plug-in plays these sites. > -- > M. Edward (Ed) Borasky > borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/ > > "A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." ~ Paul Erdos > > Quoting Katrina Niolet <[email protected]>: > >> Simply not supporting flash does put pressure on those sites which could >> work just as well without it, but not all sites using flash fall into that >> category currently. The biggest reason flash has proliferated is that > there >> is a void that they were able to fill, so while everyone hates it, > everyone >> puts up with it until something better comes along. >> >> Keep in mind that flash is not used only for pointless youtube videos and >> bad programming, there are sites like hulu.com which rely on flash because >> there is no widely available alternative currently for delivering the kind >> of media experience they want to give. While long term some of the > features >> of HTML5 are designed to fix these problems, it's still way off and > content >> providers won't be shifting overnight either. Users may incorrectly blame >> the device manufacturer for their memory filling up or slow connections > but >> they would not be incorrect to blame a manufacturer who sells devices they >> can't access their favorite websites on simply because of political > reasons. >> >> I like the idea of not downloading and playing flash files unless they are >> specifically requested, though. I believe Opera supports this, so it seems >> to be something that can be fixed at the browser (or at least rendering >> engine) level bypassing the designers and content providers. >> >> -- >> Katrina > > _______________________________________________ MeeGo-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev
