There's also legal research required - IIRC Nokia is suing Apple and Apple is suing HTC for various patent-related reasons. There might be some patents Adobe holds that are relevant.
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

"A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." ~ Paul Erd?s




Quoting Katrina Niolet <[email protected]>:

Yep, coming out with a phone and saying "it fully supports flash 10.1" could
potentially be a major selling point when competing against others who have
either no support, or only (sometimes partially) support older versions,
though of course I have not done the specific market research to figure out
the cost/benefit analysis there...

--
Katrina

-----Original Message-----
From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:11 PM
To: Katrina Niolet
Cc: 'Bernd Stramm'; 'Wichmann, Mats D'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [MeeGo-dev] Adobe Flash 10.1 on Meego

Yeah ... I hope they're working on it, because the costs and benefits
are significant, and the "market pundits" don't universally agree that
Jobs is correct. It makes sense for Apple but not necessarily for
Intel / Nokia.
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

"A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." ~ Paul Erdos




Quoting Katrina Niolet <[email protected]>:

Right, I'm just saying their decision should be based on business or
technical merits and not simply because some people just don't like flash.

--
Katrina


-----Original Message-----
From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:56 PM
To: Katrina Niolet
Cc: 'Bernd Stramm'; 'Wichmann, Mats D'; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] Adobe Flash 10.1 on Meego

This is a strategic *business* decision, not a purely technical one.
Steve Jobs has made the strategic business decision that his platform
will not support Flash. What is Intel/Nokia's decision?

Do they think Steve Jobs is wrong? Are they willing to finance open
source Flash libraries that actually work? Are there patents that
would prevent that? Are they willing to license Adobe technology if
that's required to "support Flash?"

I use openSUSE 11.2 as my principal desktop. I've tried all the
available open source Flash plug-ins and there are sites that I visit
that won't play with any of them. Novell has made some kind of deal
with Adobe to allow me to run Adobe's plug-in on my desktop, and the
Adobe plug-in plays these sites.
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

"A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." ~ Paul
Erdos

Quoting Katrina Niolet <[email protected]>:

Simply not supporting flash does put pressure on those sites which could
work just as well without it, but not all sites using flash fall into
that
category currently. The biggest reason flash has proliferated is that
there
is a void that they were able to fill, so while everyone hates it,
everyone
puts up with it until something better comes along.

Keep in mind that flash is not used only for pointless youtube videos and
bad programming, there are sites like hulu.com which rely on flash
because
there is no widely available alternative currently for delivering the
kind
of media experience they want to give. While long term some of the
features
of HTML5 are designed to fix these problems, it's still way off and
content
providers won't be shifting overnight either. Users may incorrectly blame
the device manufacturer for their memory filling up or slow connections
but
they would not be incorrect to blame a manufacturer who sells devices
they
can't access their favorite websites on simply because of political
reasons.

I like the idea of not downloading and playing flash files unless they
are
specifically requested, though. I believe Opera supports this, so it
seems
to be something that can be fixed at the browser (or at least rendering
engine) level bypassing the designers and content providers.

--
Katrina






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