On 6/10/10 12:04 PM, "Shaz" <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Janne Karhunen <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Shaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Do you have in mind a particular use case and risks you wish to protect
>>>> against? I can take that example to explain how it can be done by our
>>>> framework.
>>> 
>>> Please re-read the use-case again ... you have overly simplified it.
>>> Openness between manufacturer and operator is something else while openness
>>> with third party service providers is something else and then the policy
>>> management between multiple authoritative domains. The third service
>>> provider might not come through the operator's authoritative domain? Here
>>> the rights cannot be managed at operator's cloud alone!
>> 
>> As I said, we're not generic security kitchen sink and have
>> somewhat limited problem to solve. For now, each installation
>> source has known set of credentials they can grant.
>> 
> 
> So you just use the term open while you are restricting the business model!
> The user can be fooled but not the community. How do you expect trusted
> computing to be used if this is the attitude of designers at Nokia and
> whatever?
> 
> Apologies for my school of thought.
>  

No apologies necessary.  I wouldn't leap to conclusions though.  We just
aren't trying to solve the general security issue but instead are trying to
address specific concerns.  What we create may be applicable to a broader
area though.

As for Janne's other comment that didn't make it into your reply, please be
a bit patient as we get everything available.  Unfortunately, corporations
and lawyers don't move as fast as everyone might like.

Once we _do_ have everything out there, we would very much appreciate your
help!  Yes, the TPM/TXT case is well understood.  I'm glad you agree on
that.  :-)

Ryan

> 
>> 
>>> Where does rbac play its role? Credentials ...?
>> 
>> We're not exactly rbac. I take the public arch docs have been
>> corrected in this sense already?
>  
> No.
> 
> 

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