Nice recovery to get back to a python topic!   I was almost tempted to start 
venting about the election.  :-) 

PS.  Thanks Benno. 


On 04/09/2013, at 10:04 AM, Javier Candeira <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM, dan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Slightly off topic but don't worry you're not the only one who finds it
>> daunting:
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-29/preference-deals-could-benefit-micro-parties-at/4920822
>> 
>> It's obviously broken and needs to be fixed but awesome that there's a tool
>> to help work around it in the interim.
> 
> Trying to keep the offtopic on-topic, there is an interesting
> parallell between the cognitve loads associated with preferential
> voting and the type of direct democracy practiced in California (where
> they have many ballots at each election for  with particular laws or
> "initiative") and the micromanaging of types, access modifiers etc. in
> enterprisey languages such as Java.
> 
> There are tradeoffs everywhere. More control means more mental load.
> Lower mental load means less control. Coming from a country where
> Parliament is picked by closed lists, I appreciate the added control
> of preference ranking for Parliament here. But it certainly adds a
> mental toll.
> 
> Coming from a language like Python 2, some people appreciate type
> annotations in Python 3, so they don't have to perform guards in their
> code at runtime.
> 
> At Monash we're already running our first semester of Data Structures
> and Algorithms using Python instead of Java. I'm now translating
> sample code for students's pracs, and I find myself having to decide
> at every point whether to let some type errors (like comparisons of
> uncomparables types) pass to be caught by the Python runtime, or to
> catch them and do something myself. All of those are errors that would
> be caught by the Java compiler.
> 
> It's interesting to see the student forums, because most of the errors
> the students get stuck at are type errors (looking at a Node object
> instead of extracting the item, assigning a variable from a function
> that returns None), and all of those would have been previously caught
> by their IDE. Now they have do debug on the run, and use their brain
> instead of leveraging better tools.
> 
> Tradeoffs.
> 
> J
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