Hello all,

Thank ypu for the input. I have been reading the entire discussion and 
summarized as:

* a majority in this thread advocates to leave the platform for multiple reasons
* we should not delete the account due to control and archive

I would like to add that if we leave the platform for political reasons, we 
will in my opinion also need to abandon the use of for example LinkedIn, Google 
Summer of Code, GitHub and YouTube. I think such a political position does also 
not allow other certain activities.

That is not a good step in my opinion.

In the end I will not take the decision here and make this to at least board or 
a member vote.

Last but not least I also critizise the discussion and tone around this topic. 
This got worse in recent years and I am very sick of many people not being able 
to reflect their own behavior, their own media consumption while blaming others 
where they can.

Cheers,
Eddie

5 feb 2025 14:16:15 Ralph Meijer <[email protected]>:

> On 03/02/2025 17.33, Jonas Schäfer wrote:
>> On Samstag, 25. Januar 2025 22:07:16 MEZ Goffi wrote:
>>> I'm not even in favor of maintaining an account as the archive can't be
>>> consulted without registration. Instead, any tool to dump the archive should
>>> be used, and we could display it anywhere.
>> But should we keep it in order to avoid someone else registering the same 
>> name
>> and use it for bad purposes?
>> 
>> I am sure we can't control all places where this is linked as the XSF's
>> Twitter account.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> In my opinion, removing past posts from X (whether we keep the account or not 
> to prevent squatting) does not serve a clear purpose. Those who do not want 
> to be there will not look there. I appreciate that people in our community 
> may have stopped using X for whatever reason. Individual posts remain 
> available without logging in, but I agree that not being able to see all of 
> our posts in one view is regrettable.
> 
> However, I personally remain a user of X as one of many sources of 
> information and a way to communicate with other users (still) there. Removing 
> past information there (I guess for any account), including its original 
> context and responses, is a significant loss to me. I am sure I am not alone 
> in this.
> 
> I have been surprised and disappointed by the labeling of people using 
> certain social networks in this thread. Everybody is entitled to their own 
> opinion, but that does not mean that others have to agree. If we want to be a 
> truly open organization, this has to include difference of opinion and choice.
> 
> Separate from my personal use of X or my private (!) opinion on particular 
> individuals, I do not think the XSF should take a stance in that debate. 
> Staying there does not mean that the XSF, its members, or the XMPP community 
> in general, somehow validates other people's (mis)behavior there. It is not 
> up to the XSF to arbitrate which platforms are "ok" and which are not.
> 
> As I said before, if there is utility in letting people in other circles 
> (than those who want nothing to do with X) know about what we do, then we 
> should continue to post on X (too). I personally think there is. If none of 
> the current individual Comms team members want to be part of that, we can 
> figure that out separately. This might also be a good time to point out that 
> we have not posted to X since 9 November 2024.
> 
> Just like last week, I will happily discuss my personal opinions over a 
> beverage. Or something else entirely.
> 
> -- 
> ralphm

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