Dear all,

I have been asked to respond with statistics about the Twitter usage. I don't 
think this is actually matter of the discussion, though here it is:

Post date       Ref     Reposts Likes   Seen    Any click action        Comments
01.01.2024      XMPP Community  1       1       191     11      0
01.01.2024      XMPP Summit     1       2       151     4       0
04.01.2024      Happy Birthday  4       6       291     20      0
04.01.2024      XMPP Events     3       2       244     3       0
10.01.2024      XMPP SUMMIT 26  3       2       385     19      0
11.01.2024      XSF Announcement        5       5       457     24      0
29.01.2024      XSF Announcement        3       6       408     20      0
26.03.2024      XMPP Newsletter 3       6       222     28      0
15.04.2024      XMPP Newsletter 1       5       169     15      0
27.04.2024      XMPP Community  2       2       157     5       0
28.04.2024      XMPP Community  1       3       171     7       0
11.05.2024      XMPP Newsletter 3       6       214     15      0
11.05.2024      XMPP at GSoC    2       3       163     10      0
11.05.2024      XMPP at GSoC    1       3       181     14      2
11.05.2024      XSF Announcement        2       2       197     11      0
06.06.2024      XMPP Newsletter 0       3       147     15      0
06.06.2024      XMPP Community  2       4       303     10      0
06.07.2024      XMPP Newsletter 4       5       275     16      0
06.08.2024      XMPP Newsletter 0       2       116     14      0
06.08.2024      XMPP Community  1       1       144     7       0
08.08.2024      XSF Announcement        2       1       186     9       0
08.08.2024      XMPP Specifications     3       4       236     13      0
09.08.2024      XMPP Community  2       3       201     7       0
05.09.2024      XMPP Newsletter 1       7       189     22      0
05.09.2024      XMPP Specifications     0       3       150     7       0
02.10.2024      XMPP Newsletter 2       3       101     9       0
04.10.2024      XMPP Specifications     4       5       171     21      0
10.10.2024      XMPP Community  1       6       131     8       0
09.11.2024      XSF Announcement        3       5       139     9       0
09.11.2024      XMPP Newsletter 2       3       135     9       0
09.11.2024      XMPP Specifications     2       7       231     17      0



> Trần H. Trung <[email protected]> hat am 11.02.2025 01:32 CET geschrieben:
> 
>  
> First of all, I would like to thank Eddie for great work done for
> the communication team. Even though it is not technical, the effort of
> reaching out to the wider audience is as hard as our main work. (I'd
> argue that perhaps it's even harder if you're more of a technical
> person.)
> 
> I share the similar opinion as emus. This reminds me that the other day
> somebody asked about the possibility to send the same message across
> different accounts in `[email protected]`. Even though my reply was
> something like "it is odd for a human to do such thing". We however are
> not a single humans and our objective for this particular action is
> clear: "we aim to reach out to people."
> 
> Follow this objective, if we cherry pick individual platforms for their
> political agenda, we are no longer taking the neutral political stand.
> Thus on this side of the argument, I would go further than Twitter and
> say we should open accounts on all other popular platforms to reach even
> a wider audience. My finger is pointing at OnlyFans and alike.
> 
> The alternative action to keep a neutral stand as Eddie have mentioned
> is if we are going to remove ourselves from Twitter, we should also
> remove ourselves from every "social media" platforms that we are on
> currently. And instead, we should post our content only through
> `xmpp.org` and find other methods to reach out to the wider world if
> necessary.
> 
> Either way is fine by me but I disagree removing our Twitter presence
> alone if we are going to do this at all.
> 
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> 
> On 25/02/10 09:35pm, E.M. wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > Thank ypu for the input. I have been reading the entire discussion and 
> > summarized as:
> > 
> > * a majority in this thread advocates to leave the platform for multiple 
> > reasons
> > * we should not delete the account due to control and archive
> > 
> > I would like to add that if we leave the platform for political reasons, we 
> > will in my opinion also need to abandon the use of for example LinkedIn, 
> > Google Summer of Code, GitHub and YouTube. I think such a political 
> > position does also not allow other certain activities.
> > 
> > That is not a good step in my opinion.
> > 
> > In the end I will not take the decision here and make this to at least 
> > board or a member vote.
> > 
> > Last but not least I also critizise the discussion and tone around this 
> > topic. This got worse in recent years and I am very sick of many people not 
> > being able to reflect their own behavior, their own media consumption while 
> > blaming others where they can.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Eddie
> > 
> > 5 feb 2025 14:16:15 Ralph Meijer <[email protected]>:
> > 
> > > On 03/02/2025 17.33, Jonas Schäfer wrote:
> > >> On Samstag, 25. Januar 2025 22:07:16 MEZ Goffi wrote:
> > >>> I'm not even in favor of maintaining an account as the archive can't be
> > >>> consulted without registration. Instead, any tool to dump the archive 
> > >>> should
> > >>> be used, and we could display it anywhere.
> > >> But should we keep it in order to avoid someone else registering the 
> > >> same name
> > >> and use it for bad purposes?
> > >> 
> > >> I am sure we can't control all places where this is linked as the XSF's
> > >> Twitter account.
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > In my opinion, removing past posts from X (whether we keep the account or 
> > > not to prevent squatting) does not serve a clear purpose. Those who do 
> > > not want to be there will not look there. I appreciate that people in our 
> > > community may have stopped using X for whatever reason. Individual posts 
> > > remain available without logging in, but I agree that not being able to 
> > > see all of our posts in one view is regrettable.
> > > 
> > > However, I personally remain a user of X as one of many sources of 
> > > information and a way to communicate with other users (still) there. 
> > > Removing past information there (I guess for any account), including its 
> > > original context and responses, is a significant loss to me. I am sure I 
> > > am not alone in this.
> > > 
> > > I have been surprised and disappointed by the labeling of people using 
> > > certain social networks in this thread. Everybody is entitled to their 
> > > own opinion, but that does not mean that others have to agree. If we want 
> > > to be a truly open organization, this has to include difference of 
> > > opinion and choice.
> > > 
> > > Separate from my personal use of X or my private (!) opinion on 
> > > particular individuals, I do not think the XSF should take a stance in 
> > > that debate. Staying there does not mean that the XSF, its members, or 
> > > the XMPP community in general, somehow validates other people's 
> > > (mis)behavior there. It is not up to the XSF to arbitrate which platforms 
> > > are "ok" and which are not.
> > > 
> > > As I said before, if there is utility in letting people in other circles 
> > > (than those who want nothing to do with X) know about what we do, then we 
> > > should continue to post on X (too). I personally think there is. If none 
> > > of the current individual Comms team members want to be part of that, we 
> > > can figure that out separately. This might also be a good time to point 
> > > out that we have not posted to X since 9 November 2024.
> > > 
> > > Just like last week, I will happily discuss my personal opinions over a 
> > > beverage. Or something else entirely.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > ralphm

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