I can only imagine what they would sound like!!

Gregg
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Clough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, 28 March 2000 6:51
Subject: Re: L20 and sss heads


>The beauty is they look pretty standard on the outside.  Apart from the big
>webers and a lovely extractor system the motor looks pretty original.  They
>come immaculately painted with a red block.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Gregg Sheridan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, 27 March 2000 10:57 AM
>Subject: Re: L20 and sss heads
>
>
>> Somone else told me that he was still building engines. You would have to
>be
>> pretty keen to spend 12 big ones on an l series. It would be one hell of
a
>> motor.
>>
>> Gregg
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Clough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Monday, 27 March 2000 10:31
>> Subject: Re: L20 and sss heads
>>
>>
>> >For those interested in hi HP L series engines, you need to get in touch
>> >with Les Collins, the original owner of Datrally Developments.  Les
still
>> >builds top HP L series engines, some of which go to Japanese
enthusiasts.
>> >$12000 for a bullet proof  reliable, "legal" L18 block, putting out a
>> >genuine 215HP using 48mm webers. However the engine capacity isn't under
>2
>> >litres.  One of these engines is running in a 1600 rally car running in
>> >Victorian events.
>> >Speed costs money.  How fast do you want to go?
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Terry & Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Monday, 27 March 2000 20:18 PM
>> >Subject: Re: L20 and sss heads
>> >
>> >
>> >> Gregg,
>> >> The figures i quoted earlier were only approximations and they were
>based
>> >on
>> >> the L18W block and were definitely not road use specs. The rally spec
>> >engines
>> >> were designed to make power upwards of 4000 rpm and wouldn't really
get
>> >going
>> >> between 5-8k rpm and they run on a minimum diet of BP100 or usually
>> AvGas.
>> >I
>> >> would not sa it was easy to build a 200+ hp L engine but i spose if
you
>> >had
>> >> access to the necessary parts etc. it was done by a few ppl but you
>> >definitely
>> >> needed a truck load of cash. The only cost that i can recall off hand
>(as
>> >i
>> >> bought a used one missing a few bits from RallyeQuip) was for the 1889
>cc
>> >> A87BP street engine which ran on 100 octane super was in the order of
>> >$5000
>> >> new in ~1982, and that's got to work out to be a lot of $ these days,
>the
>> >> street version of the 1889 had around 150 hp and was very reliable. If
>> you
>> >> also had another truck load of cash for a FIA head, then you got a few
>> >more hp
>> >> but at very high rpm - some ppl say they weren't worth the money.
>> >>
>> >> All this talk (reminiscing about the good old days) and about hypo L
>> >engines
>> >> makes me feel much better about paying the dollars for a FJ - cheap hp
>> off
>> >the
>> >> boat; all you need is a bleeder and a Wolf and you're racing.
>> >>
>> >> Terry
>> >>
>> >> Gregg Sheridan wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Isn't it fairly easy to get about 220 hp out of a 2 litre l series
>> using
>> >a
>> >> > non crossflow head?
>> >> > I mean it would cost a bit but still possible.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gregg
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Terry & Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > To: Ozdat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > Date: Monday, 27 March 2000 2:21
>> >> > Subject: Re: L20 and sss heads
>> >> >
>> >> > >Zac,
>> >> > >The ball park figures for the Group G AJ engines were:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >1770 cc ~ 150hp (A87)
>> >> > >1889 cc ~ 170hp (beatiful L engine this one and best value for $)
>> >> > >with A87
>> >> > >1940 cc ~ 190 hp (A87 head) ~ 210hp (xflow & $$$$$ or Nissan twin
>> >> > >cam head aka 710SSS Fury)
>> >> > >~2100 (exact capacity escapes me, mongrel L engine) ~ 200 hp (A87)
>> >> > >~230 - 240 hp (xflow & $$$$$)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >--
>> >> > >Terry
>> >> > >
>> >> > >"You win some, you lose some, you wreck some."
>> >> > >   Dale Earnhardt
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > >> From: "Zac Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > >> Subject: Re: L20 and sss heads
>> >> > >> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 15:57:44 +0930
>> >> > >> -----
>> >> > >> ah ok, I didn't realise we were talking that type of head..!
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >> From: Philip Egan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > >> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 3:22 PM
>> >> > >> Subject: RE: L20 and sss heads
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > The old Group G 1600s would be up around this figure! (they
>> >> > >were using L18
>> >> > >> > blocks with cross flow heads etc) Big bucks for big horsepower
>> >> > >though...
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

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