I agree totally, its just at the moment I can't afford to on top of buying
the entire engine assembly.  It doesn't matter anyway 'cause Errol's
packages come with absolutely everything for an extremely good price!  If I
was buying something without the computer I definitely would buy something
aftermarket and save myself a few hundred dollars and hassles. SO ADVICE
TAKEN, I will upgrade the computer in the future, I will not be driving the
engine around on the standard computer all its life in my car.  Its just at
the moment, its not feasible.  THANKS HEAPS FOR ALL THE ADVICE, REALLY, I
APPRECIATE IT!!!!

Daniel Kroehn

Supporting Datrats
WWW.Datrats.com.au

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS


> Daniel,
> I understand totally where your coming from with the lack of funding, but
all we
> are trying to say is that it is entirely not worth it if you have to pay
extra
> $$$ to get the standard computer, youd be better off getting a cheap a/m
one
> then you wont be having any problems and your z18 will perform shiteloads
> better!!
> Putting the digi 1 one on mine was the best thing ive done so far - went
from
> running shit, leaning out and doing mid 15 quarters to running sweet and
just
> recently ran high 13's all night!!
> For couple hundred bucks might be worthwhile saving up!
> Steve.
>
>
> Daniel Kroehn wrote:
>
> > Yep, I guess so, just another few hundred dollars is something I
probably
> > wont have at the moment, 'cause I still have to buy 200B struts, shockie
> > oil, new front and rear pads, new nuts for when I put the R31 brakes
> > on............ .................
> > Well you get the picture.
> >
> > Daniel Kroehn
> > Supporting Datrats
> > WWW.Datrats.com.au
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Zac Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> >
> > > Daniel, your twin weber L series motor would probably fail an EPA test
> > right
> > > now!
> > >
> > > zac
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Daniel Kroehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hell yeah, but $30 and a bit of time off the road for a defect
compared
> > to
> > > > fines of up to $10 000 for breach of EPA law is two different things
in
> > my
> > > > book.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Kroehn
> > > >
> > > > Supporting Datrats
> > > > WWW.Datrats.com.au
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Andrew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:32 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > it is fuel only, not sure on the closed loop bit, doubt it, it
doesnt
> > > > matter
> > > > > about the engine, just the chassis, mind you it doesnt really
matter
> > at
> > > > all
> > > > > as im sure youve noticed most modified cars are illegal in some
way or
> > > > > another.
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Daniel Kroehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, 14 November 2000 13:09
> > > > > Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Ok, one other question though, is the standard Z-18et computer
fuel
> > > only
> > > > or
> > > > > >closed loop?  Hey if its illegal to run an aftermarket on a post
76
> > > car,
> > > > > how
> > > > > >would it go since the Z-18et is actually an engine from a post 76
> > model
> > > > > >vehicle?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Daniel Kroehn
> > > > > >Supporting Datrats
> > > > > >WWW.Datrats.com.au
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: Andrew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:04 AM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> as far as epa goes it is illegal to run an aftermarket computer
on
> > > post
> > > > > 76
> > > > > >> cars, so your sweet, some others are interested in the
computers so
> > > you
> > > > > >> better  be quick
> > > > > >> andrew
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: Daniel Kroehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> Date: Tuesday, 14 November 2000 11:37
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >I'll have a think about it.  I've read in a few books that
> > > aftermarket
> > > > > >> >computers can be against the EPA laws and big fines if caught,
so
> > > I've
> > > > > >> gotta
> > > > > >> >do some investigating.  I would have really liked a closed
loop
> > > engine
> > > > > >> >management system as well.  I'll get back to you on that one.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Thanks
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Daniel Kroehn
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Supporting Datrats
> > > > > >> >WWW.Datrats.com.au
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> >From: Andrew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 9:34 AM
> > > > > >> >Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >> yep theyre fuel only, screw driver tuners, not very good at
all
> > > > > >compared
> > > > > >> >to
> > > > > >> >> todays standards, but work well none the less and are a
great
> > > excuse
> > > > > >for
> > > > > >> >> throwing the afm
> > > > > >> >> andrew
> > > > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> >> From: Daniel Kroehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> Date: Tuesday, 14 November 2000 10:04
> > > > > >> >> Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >What's does a d4 and d5 actually do, fuel only?
> > > > > >> >> >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> >> >From: Andrew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:11 AM
> > > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> i decided i can let my d4 go for $250 with loom or i can
get
> > a
> > > d5
> > > > > >for
> > > > > >> >> $300
> > > > > >> >> >> with loom, if you can get say $50 back on stocker loom
and
> > comp
> > > > > like
> > > > > >> >> >steve,
> > > > > >> >> >> its a decent upgrade, much cheaper than the $1k+ for new
> > comps
> > > > > >> >> >> andrew
> > > > > >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> >> >> From: Daniel Kroehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >> Date: Monday, 13 November 2000 22:31
> > > > > >> >> >> Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> >Thanks steve.  I think I'll pick one up from Errol as
soon
> > as
> > > he
> > > > > >gets
> > > > > >> >> >some
> > > > > >> >> >> >in as he had a good price on his batch of Z-18ets and
they
> > > came
> > > > > >with
> > > > > >> >> >> >everthing to "drop it in an drive away" .  I will
upgrade
> > the
> > > > > >> computer
> > > > > >> >> in
> > > > > >> >> >> >the future but at the moment I only have enough funds to
buy
> > > the
> > > > > >> thing
> > > > > >> >> >and
> > > > > >> >> >> >drop it in the car.  But hey, with a few simple
breathing
> > mods
> > > > it
> > > > > >> >should
> > > > > >> >> >> >surely produce more power than my twin webered, over
cammed
> > > > L20B.
> > > > > >> And
> > > > > >> >> >> >besides I still have to put my R31 and hilux/200B brakes
on
> > > the
> > > > > >car,
> > > > > >> >so
> > > > > >> >> >> that
> > > > > >> >> >> >takes a little out of the budget.
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >Thanks
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >Daniel Kroehn
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >Supporting Datrats
> > > > > >> >> >> >WWW.Datrats.com.au
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> >> >> >From: Steve Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >> >Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 7:47 AM
> > > > > >> >> >> >Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING HARNESS
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> Daniel,
> > > > > >> >> >> >> I just sold my Z18et factory computer/loom/and airflow
> > meter
> > > > to
> > > > > >SSS
> > > > > >> >> for
> > > > > >> >> >> >> $50!!!!!!!!!! So unless you cant find a g/box to suit
for
> > > > under
> > > > > >> $950
> > > > > >> >> >this
> > > > > >> >> >> >is
> > > > > >> >> >> >> certainly far to expensive. Apart from that the
computer
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > >> >first
> > > > > >> >> >> >thing
> > > > > >> >> >> >> that i got rid of and probably the most successful
power
> > > > > >> enhancement
> > > > > >> >> >ive
> > > > > >> >> >> >done.
> > > > > >> >> >> >> Performance will be extremely limited if trying to use
the
> > > > > >standard
> > > > > >> >> >comp
> > > > > >> >> >> >and
> > > > > >> >> >> >> basically it is just not worth the effort - they suck
to
> > > wire
> > > > > >> aswell
> > > > > >> >> >(the
> > > > > >> >> >> >> microtech took about 1 hour to install).
> > > > > >> >> >> >> So if i were you id save the dollars, get a good
> > aftermarket
> > > > > >comp.
> > > > > >> >(im
> > > > > >> >> >> >just
> > > > > >> >> >> >> using a digi fuel only microtech) and youll be more
than
> > > > pleased
> > > > > >> >with
> > > > > >> >> >how
> > > > > >> >> >> >> she'll go!
> > > > > >> >> >> >> Cheers
> > > > > >> >> >> >> Steve.
> > > > > >> >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> Daniel Kroehn wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > Most of the jap import wreckers sell them for under
> > $1000
> > > > > >without
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > computer/harness and g/box.  SSS in sydney has a
> > complete
> > > > > >package
> > > > > >> >> >> >(g/box,
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > engine, turbo, manifolds, comp, harness etc) only
done
> > 60
> > > > 000
> > > > > >> kays
> > > > > >> >> >and
> > > > > >> >> >> >the
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > guy drove it in Japan and reckons its a sweet motor.
> > > $2000
> > > > > >firm.
> > > > > >> >> >I'm
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > waiting to see if Errol can get some more in 'cause
he
> > had
> > > a
> > > > > >good
> > > > > >> >> >price
> > > > > >> >> >> >on
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > the last batch he had.
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > Hope it helps.
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > Daniel Kroehn
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > From: Wayne Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 4:56 PM
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING
HARNESS
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > hi,
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > if you decide not to get it could you let me know
of
> > the
> > > > > >> seller.
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > reg
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > wayne jones
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > http://drive.to/maximum_boost
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >From: "Daniel Kroehn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >Subject: NEEDED Z-18et COMPUTER AND WIRING
HARNESS
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:20:31 +1000
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >List,
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >I've found a Z-18et for a really good price
without
> > the
> > > > box
> > > > > >or
> > > > > >> >> the
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > computer
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >and harness.  Everything else is there.  I
already
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > >few
> > > > > >> L
> > > > > >> >> >> >series
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >boxes at home so I don't need a gearbox but I do
need
> > a
> > > > > >> HARNESS
> > > > > >> >> >and
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >COMPUTER.  If any of you guys who have put
> > aftermarket
> > > > > >> computer
> > > > > >> >> on
> > > > > >> >> >> >your
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >zeds have one lying around and are willing to
sell
> > it,
> > > > > could
> > > > > >> >you
> > > > > >> >> >> >write
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >back.
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >I JUST DON'T WANT TO LET THIS ONE SLIP THROUGH MY
> > > > FINGERS,
> > > > > >BUT
> > > > > >> >> >I'LL
> > > > > >> >> >> >HAVE
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > TO
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >IF I CAN'T GET A COMPUTER AND HARNESS
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >Thanks
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > >Daniel Kroehn
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