I checked today with TransportSA for eligibility of my Z20E for rego, and
was told over the phone that with "no doubt whatsoever" a (stock) L20b would
be legal to fit to an otherwise standard 1600
For the Z20E I had to fill out an application for vehicle modification,
which details suspension, brake, motor, wheel, tyre, track, steering and
chassis changes which they then use to figure out if the mods are legal.
It's a bit silly of course because if I presented the car as is but with an
L20b engine number it would pass with no problems! Anybody got a die
grinder handy!? Oops I think that's illegal huh :)
Thought it might be of interest to the SA listers
- Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "andrew smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
> There are so many inconsistencies especially here in perth even more so
since
> thepits are now run by privately owned businesses.I know one guy who
turned up
> with willwood 4 spots on the front with 300mm vented rotos and they
knocked it
> back but passed it the next day with 240k brakes.the inspectors reasoning
was
> that the 4 spots are race brakes but for $500 he would arrange a ticket
for
> them.According to the legislation even 240k or 200b brakes are illegal
without a
> ticket.This inspector is now under investigation as they should only
supply
> details of registed engineers .
> Andrew Smith
>
> Terry Rudd wrote:
>
> > You can see why the RTA is trying to standardise safety specification
for
> > modified vehicles. I'm not saying that your car is a death trap, but
> > experiences like this just send shivers down my spine. To many of my
friend
> > were badly injured and a couple were even killed driving unsafe hotted
up
> > cars in the 70's and I would have thought by now it would have been a
bit
> > better than back then.
> >
> > terry (soap box just got squashed)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ryanmel
> > Sent: Monday, 18 June 2001 19:47
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
> >
> > here in perth they allow a 25% or 30% increase in capacity i think.
> > i had some serious problems getting my Z18ET 1600 over the pits in perth
> > because i had put R31 rear discs on and the fronts were 200B Girlock
with a
> > 180B Dual reservoir m/cyl. The engine was passed with a phone call...
they
> > rang
> > a guy they use for getting ideas on how much hp import motors have as
> > they had some limit on that too (i think 20%)... they happened to ring a
guy
> > i used
> > regularly and he just said, "yeah, thats within the limits" and that was
> > that.
> > from a stock L16 to a Z18ET was less than 20%?? but come to the brakes
and
> > 3 of the pits
> > i went to said "we need someone to sign off on the brakes, we wont take
> > liablility for them"
> > there was only one guy in perth who had the little program and the
G-tech to
> > measure
> > stopping distance relative to pedal pressure and ra ra ra ra. he wanted
> > $400 a pop and said
> > it will need 2 trials. so $800... anyways, the fourth pits i took it
to,
> > didn't even check them..
> > got away scott free. they signed off on the brakes thinking they had
been
> > checked.. all systems nelly
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:32 AM
> > Subject: RE: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
> >
> > > That is just sillyness!!
> > > It is my opinion that a compuslory engineers certificate is probably
the
> > > easiest way to allow engine conversions, but then the engineers need
to be
> > > regulated themselves. ie by that I mean engineering a stock L20b into
a
> > 1600
> > > shouldn't cost any more than $100 provided it is safe and has [for
> > example]
> > > 200b brakes minimum. But I realise then the laws will have to be
changed
> > to let
> > > engineers do it that cheaply.
> > >
> > > zac
> > >
> > > > Listers,
> > > >
> > > > Ha, I like it, just go to another rego office who haven't read the
head
> > > > office memos for a month.
> > > >
> > > > The reduction in oversize transplants crap has started to happen in
the
> > ACT
> > > > too, I was talking to them recently and they told me that an 1800cc
> > inline 4
> > > > cyl is the max "over the pits" upgrade for a 1600 as under the
National
> > > > Roads Guidelines some idiot has deemed that the engineering level of
a
> > road
> > > > registered car (you'd immediately think they were talking about a
> > Hyundai
> > > > but it seems not) can only safely handle a 12.5% increase in cubic
> > capacity
> > > > and it would seem that you can't change the engine block
configuration
> > > > either ( i.e. no 1.5 litre v8's). He went on to inform me that "This
> > change
> > > > in legislation is designed to stop young revheads dropping V8's into
> > their
> > > > Datsun 1600's!" - yeah right, how many V8 1600 are registered in the
> > ACT -
> > > > Answer 1.
> > > >
> > > > So I asked him about replacing a L16 Datto with a Toyota 4A-GE (NA
> > 1600cc 4
> > > > cyl inline 20 valve and incidentally puts out more KWs than a L20B
puts
> > out
> > > > in HP)? Answer - "unless the conversion requires structural changes
to
> > the
> > > > chassis then you would just present to the pits for a ruling and if
it
> > was
> > > > done properly I couldn't see how you will have a problem under this
> > ruling."
> > > >
> > > > This is a joke, these clowns have nfi what they are doing but they
make
> > or
> > > > at least interpret the law of the land. I read recently that there
is a
> > big
> > > > push going on again in the US (California at this stage) again for
the
> > > > government to "buy back" all road registered vehicle pre 1970 - the
> > > > suggested amount is $US2500. This is of concern to us over here as
well
> > as
> > > > if this gets off the ground then it will be very quickly grabbed by
the
> > > > average greenie for sure.
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > Terry (stepping down of soapbox)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard
Webb
> > > > Sent: Monday, 18 June 2001 10:55
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My mate had some problems getting his L20 regestered in melb without
an
> > > > engineers, he thaught he had no hope... one of his mates told him to
try
> > all
> > > > the vic roads, he got it through eventually (Greensbough Vic Roads)
but
> > he
> > > > did have to try about 4 of them. Its worth a try before you get an
> > engineers
> > > > anyway!
> > > >
> > > > Whats the go if you let your regestation lapse is it like a
roadworthy
> > or do
> > > > you have to get a new engineers?
> > > >
> > > > thanx rich
> > > >
> > >
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